Absolutely pointless. Quality will be poor, the compression will need to be high to get more than a few shots in the memory and unless you regularly print posters of your photos then you don't need the resolution.
I can see that it will allow you to crop a photo and still get a good picture, but if your crops look all grainy, distorted and uneven in luminance (vignetting) then really what is the use?
A good camera won't make up for a diabolical phone. Just buy a camera.
Thing is, you want your product to sell on merit not on price.
Look at the other products that didn't shift until they were heavily discounted. The RIM Playbook and the HP Touchpad. Many bought them with the intention of hacking them to run Android too.
If you can't sell when priced similar or just under the competition then something is wrong.
Exactly right. It seems standards are slipping. It's taken decades to get a standard power connector in the EU for phones.
We could be doing clever things with Bluetooth, except that Bluetooth sucks which is why you still see people holding phones when driving despite it being illegal.
Such integrated devices can be useful but also are a dream for the company making them. It means the purchaser has to buy a phone, tablet and keyboard/dock from the same company for it all to work.
Nothing wrong with protecting your trademark IP and branding.
Without protection for branding and trademarks it becomes very hard to buy the genuine item as it allows the counterfeiters and cloners to dump all manner of fake rubbish on the market.
If you've ever bought anything from China and spent an hour trying to find out who the hell made it (to find drivers or updates) then you'll be glad we take trademarks seriously.
How many people actually download and run Java jar files these days? I have a few for very niche purposes (namely MIDI patch editors). But for the most part I think that the fact that they have resorted to using Java says a lot about the general security of OSX.
If Java was installed by default on Windows I'm sure it could be potentially causing havoc too. OSX Lion doesn't have it installed by default, so only those Lion users who have Java applications would be vulnerable (and only if they were dumb enough to run some unknown Java JAR).
Re: "Why does this article read like women in a marriage have no real importance?"
Her input into the marriage financially was negligible. When splitting assets surely ownership should be divided fairly based upon who paid for them?
Or would you give your wife half of everything you own even though she paid for none of it?
Of course the situation is a lot different if there are kids involved, since by splitting up the kids are being denied their usual family lifestyle and they shouldn't have to suffer too much financially.
Adults should have to make their own way in life, not rely on big payouts from ending a marriage, which often become an incentive for doing so.
As for pre-nups, some people think they take away the romance and are quite a cynical thing to get someone to sign before marrying them.
This is the problem with divorce law. If I was with someone rich, wasn't happy and knew I could get a few billion by divorcing them it wouldn't be a very hard decision to make.
I think the problem with iTunes it not that is needs more technology, it needs massively less. It needs to be cut down massively and just turned into an installation tool and sync tool for music like it used to be. It's such a horrible slow pile of bloat.
Leave all the browsing and searching for the web which is a damn sight nicer to use. With the advantage of being able to open tabs and the like.
Can you name a battery that doesn't deplete when stood still? a battery uses a chemical reaction which you can't really stop.
Lithium ion batteries (used in most portable consumer electronics) don't like to be discharged completely. When your phone is complaining about being empty there's actually a fair amount of charge left, they just are protecting you from deep discharge.
Top Gear don't like electric cars or diesel or anything that's not running on petrol and they do their best to rubbish anything, regardless of its potential.
If they only registered it in 10 countries then Apple buying the rights in all 10 is worldwide rights to use the same, since Apple is likely to have registered the name in the other countries. Pretty simple.
The case was dismissed due to a lack of evidence. If you can't prove you own a trademark or that your subsidiary doesn't have the right to sell the rights to it then there's isn't much point going to court.
We've all heard of patent trolls, this is a trademark troll. But one which either doesn't have or has lost the paperwork.
This is why the general PC purchase experience and user experience is so dire, probably why Macs and tablets are selling so well.
There simply is no need for about 8 editions of Windows and 4 or so stickers. Just simplify things.
Two editions of Windows one for desktops and workstations, the other for servers.
As for stickers, get rid of them. Let the computer vendors determine what constitutes a capable machine, if they mis-sell there's always consumer rights and "fit for purpose". Some laptops come with that many stickers that you end up damaging the casing removing the damn things.
People just write slow, high level rubbish code these days. So it's no wonder you need so much CPU power in a phone.
I've been playing with some MIDI electronics projects recently and it's refreshing to see people who can write decent code on PICs in only a few bytes of RAM.
While a modern smartphone is obviously a lot more powerful, it needs to be if you're going to write applications in Flash then convert them into Java style code to run on a VM above a HAL which finally (after a few layers of API) does something.
Under EU law the settings have to be respected. Google did not comply with the law.
It's pretty simple to comply with the law, software shouldn't need to use brute force to enforce the law. They used tricks they thought would never get discovered to maintain their revenue stream of providing data to advertisers.
It's funny, because code signing and cryptography seems to work in the games console world. They have only managed to get around the protection in consoles after a lot of hard work and in the case of the PS3 they wouldn't have so easily had Sony been a bit more clever. In some cases hardware modifications were needed.
So why should it fail so easily in the computer market?
Re: Re: Re: Looks more like Apple locking people into the app store to me
It's not about preventing apps that aren't signed, it just alerts and warns you about those that aren't.
Windows Vista, 7 and Server 2008 do this. You can switch off such warnings.
Wasn't Microsoft going to prevent the loading device drivers they hadn't approved also? it's more or less the same thing. It's about trust and stability.
Erm, while they weren't the most amazing computer. That was largely down to the legacy Mac OS.
But they were ground breaking in terms of design. Up until them most computers were dull ugly beige boxes. The iMac showed people that computers could be attractive.
If you've used Windows 7 and Vista you'll notice they do the same. They show a warning about not being able to verify the identity of the software etc.
It's obvious now, just like anything you have gotten used to is obvious.The mouse seems obvious, touch screens and multitouch seems obvious.
I suggest you go back to 2006 and look at touch screen user interfaces prior to the iPhone. I would also look at the original Android prototypes, they're nothing like how Android phones were when released. This suggests Google looked to see how popular the iPhone would be before being "inspired" by their UI.
Re: "worldwide rights ... in 10 different countries"
If they only registered it in 10 countries then by buying the rights to 10 countries that makes the rights worldwide since part of the agreement would be that Apple would register rights in the other countries (if they hadn't already).
Proview are probably being bankrolled by Apple competitors anyway, they're practically going out of business.
People had owned their phones before and moved on, just like they had from Nokia. It takes a lot to go back to a brand you used to use but moved on from.
Hence why I shake my head in disbelief every time a new Android phone is announced with an even bigger screen. Someone somewhere will justify carrying a 7 inch screened phone soon.
Perhaps this is why people don't carry their phones around the office. They go off repeatedly with phone calls, messages and calendar reminders and nobody is there to stop them.
Oh come on, how many desktop applications ask you to access all the various APIs?
I can write an application on OSX that reads all the address book and sends it off to a server. You can almost certainly do the same thing on Windows and Linux.
The difference is people are more willing and naive when it comes to installing software on their phone.
Guess what, when you come to sell the Apple laptop you get a really good price for it. Try that with a generic PC laptop.
When buying cars people talk about depreciation, well just like a desirable car (VW Golf, BMW 3 Series) depreciation is much less with an Apple laptop. That alone is worth paying the extra for IMHO.
Or buy your PC laptop (or Citroen C5) and get nothing for it when you come to sell.
Nobody wants Intel x86 on a phone. It doesn't run Windows, it offers no compatibility with Windows applications. There's simply no point to it, it is just a desperate attempt by Intel to stay relevant and in control as mobile computing grows.
Yes, it would be nice to have some competition to ARM but it should be from another efficient well designed CPU family (mobile PowerPC would be nice) not the legacy tat that is x86.
They're focussing on Apple at they are making a lot of money. But I doubt this extra money they're making is not by pressuring manufacturers into cutting corners, it is by the fact that their products are more expensive to buy in the first place.
To be honest, working conditions being audited by suppliers is only a short term fix. The long term fix is for China to respect human rights and for workers to form unions to ensure conditions are safe.
Korea is an emerging market? they've had broadband for years, are massively into online gaming and are very well known for like gadgets with a million features.
We're the slime that crawled out of the sea compared to them.
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Re: Creating a shell company to swindle people
If it was a crime do you think the courts would have ignored it?
Re: Re: Aren't we past this?
Samples are always going to be good. You're not going to under-sell your device.
Absolutely pointless. Quality will be poor, the compression will need to be high to get more than a few shots in the memory and unless you regularly print posters of your photos then you don't need the resolution.
I can see that it will allow you to crop a photo and still get a good picture, but if your crops look all grainy, distorted and uneven in luminance (vignetting) then really what is the use?
A good camera won't make up for a diabolical phone. Just buy a camera.
Re: Re: Its only a matter of time
It's in everyone's interest that FRAND is enforced properly. Otherwise phones end up costing more.
FRAND is a well known concept, it has been ruled that Motorola's demands weren't fair or non-discriminatory.
Re: If the lumia 710...
Thing is, you want your product to sell on merit not on price.
Look at the other products that didn't shift until they were heavily discounted. The RIM Playbook and the HP Touchpad. Many bought them with the intention of hacking them to run Android too.
If you can't sell when priced similar or just under the competition then something is wrong.
Exactly right. It seems standards are slipping. It's taken decades to get a standard power connector in the EU for phones.
We could be doing clever things with Bluetooth, except that Bluetooth sucks which is why you still see people holding phones when driving despite it being illegal.
Such integrated devices can be useful but also are a dream for the company making them. It means the purchaser has to buy a phone, tablet and keyboard/dock from the same company for it all to work.
The less technology in cars the better. It's a machine for moving you around, it's not your living room or desk.
Might go some way to stopping the thousands of deaths on the roads each year that seems to be "normal" or "acceptable" in this society.
Re: I was going to say...
Nothing wrong with protecting your trademark IP and branding.
Without protection for branding and trademarks it becomes very hard to buy the genuine item as it allows the counterfeiters and cloners to dump all manner of fake rubbish on the market.
If you've ever bought anything from China and spent an hour trying to find out who the hell made it (to find drivers or updates) then you'll be glad we take trademarks seriously.
How many people actually download and run Java jar files these days? I have a few for very niche purposes (namely MIDI patch editors). But for the most part I think that the fact that they have resorted to using Java says a lot about the general security of OSX.
If Java was installed by default on Windows I'm sure it could be potentially causing havoc too. OSX Lion doesn't have it installed by default, so only those Lion users who have Java applications would be vulnerable (and only if they were dumb enough to run some unknown Java JAR).
Does the button actually work?
Re: "Why does this article read like women in a marriage have no real importance?"
Her input into the marriage financially was negligible. When splitting assets surely ownership should be divided fairly based upon who paid for them?
Or would you give your wife half of everything you own even though she paid for none of it?
Of course the situation is a lot different if there are kids involved, since by splitting up the kids are being denied their usual family lifestyle and they shouldn't have to suffer too much financially.
Adults should have to make their own way in life, not rely on big payouts from ending a marriage, which often become an incentive for doing so.
As for pre-nups, some people think they take away the romance and are quite a cynical thing to get someone to sign before marrying them.
This is the problem with divorce law. If I was with someone rich, wasn't happy and knew I could get a few billion by divorcing them it wouldn't be a very hard decision to make.
I think the problem with iTunes it not that is needs more technology, it needs massively less. It needs to be cut down massively and just turned into an installation tool and sync tool for music like it used to be. It's such a horrible slow pile of bloat.
Leave all the browsing and searching for the web which is a damn sight nicer to use. With the advantage of being able to open tabs and the like.
Re: Re: can you say class action ?
Can you name a battery that doesn't deplete when stood still? a battery uses a chemical reaction which you can't really stop.
Lithium ion batteries (used in most portable consumer electronics) don't like to be discharged completely. When your phone is complaining about being empty there's actually a fair amount of charge left, they just are protecting you from deep discharge.
Top Gear don't like electric cars or diesel or anything that's not running on petrol and they do their best to rubbish anything, regardless of its potential.
If they only registered it in 10 countries then Apple buying the rights in all 10 is worldwide rights to use the same, since Apple is likely to have registered the name in the other countries. Pretty simple.
The case was dismissed due to a lack of evidence. If you can't prove you own a trademark or that your subsidiary doesn't have the right to sell the rights to it then there's isn't much point going to court.
We've all heard of patent trolls, this is a trademark troll. But one which either doesn't have or has lost the paperwork.
How long before people start to demand domain suffixes for towns and cities?
A web address should not become as cumbersome as a mail address, it's only a shortcut not an address used to pinpoint a specific location on a map.
This is why the general PC purchase experience and user experience is so dire, probably why Macs and tablets are selling so well.
There simply is no need for about 8 editions of Windows and 4 or so stickers. Just simplify things.
Two editions of Windows one for desktops and workstations, the other for servers.
As for stickers, get rid of them. Let the computer vendors determine what constitutes a capable machine, if they mis-sell there's always consumer rights and "fit for purpose". Some laptops come with that many stickers that you end up damaging the casing removing the damn things.
People just write slow, high level rubbish code these days. So it's no wonder you need so much CPU power in a phone.
I've been playing with some MIDI electronics projects recently and it's refreshing to see people who can write decent code on PICs in only a few bytes of RAM.
While a modern smartphone is obviously a lot more powerful, it needs to be if you're going to write applications in Flash then convert them into Java style code to run on a VM above a HAL which finally (after a few layers of API) does something.
Re: Not quite sure
Under EU law the settings have to be respected. Google did not comply with the law.
It's pretty simple to comply with the law, software shouldn't need to use brute force to enforce the law. They used tricks they thought would never get discovered to maintain their revenue stream of providing data to advertisers.
Re: Re: Not just maturity ...
3.0 was just a version bump to celebrate its 20 year anniversary. I don't think anything major happened to it before the bump.
Surely they could use "cloud" systems, it is surely better to rent than buy?
If it wasn't for Android they would be complaining about Google's actions. Somehow Android excuses them for anything.
So if you don't trust Google with your privacy then why on earth would you run their browser?
LOL
Wasn't it Microsoft who put out a press release after the original Safari news saying to use their browser instead?
Re: Do you know what's worse than no security?
It's funny, because code signing and cryptography seems to work in the games console world. They have only managed to get around the protection in consoles after a lot of hard work and in the case of the PS3 they wouldn't have so easily had Sony been a bit more clever. In some cases hardware modifications were needed.
So why should it fail so easily in the computer market?
Re: Re: Re: Looks more like Apple locking people into the app store to me
It's not about preventing apps that aren't signed, it just alerts and warns you about those that aren't.
Windows Vista, 7 and Server 2008 do this. You can switch off such warnings.
Wasn't Microsoft going to prevent the loading device drivers they hadn't approved also? it's more or less the same thing. It's about trust and stability.
Re: I'm confused, maybe you can help me out..
Maybe it's called having a range of products? not everyone can justify £400-500 for a phone. There's a world economic crisis taking place still.
Re: Beats me why filmmakers option Dick's stories
Screamers is pretty accurate too.
But hollywood is looking for ideas and inspiration. But nobody wants to do the book without changes, otherwise how can they claim to have contributed?
Erm, while they weren't the most amazing computer. That was largely down to the legacy Mac OS.
But they were ground breaking in terms of design. Up until them most computers were dull ugly beige boxes. The iMac showed people that computers could be attractive.
Re: Oh Great....What a frigging annoyance from hell
So you've never felt that you want to stop tapping away at your phone and type the message on a real computer keyboard?
It's optional, you can switch it off.
Re: I once...
It's optional. They've providing the ability for certain paranoid people to only get software from specific sources which are validated.
This isn't much different to the "official" package repositories for Linux.
If it ever becomes mandatory then you will have a point. But I would imagine that nobody would upgrade and it wouldn't be mandatory for long.
Re: Pick your garden now while you can still see the alternatives...
Erm, Microsoft built their wall higher first and Apple are catching them up. Not the other way around.
XP had confirmations about unsigned drivers years ago. Code signing and warnings are nothing now.
Re: Pass...
If you've used Windows 7 and Vista you'll notice they do the same. They show a warning about not being able to verify the identity of the software etc.
Playing catch up
Gatekeeper is just playing catch up to Microsoft who have shown warnings about unsigned apps for years now (Vista/7).
But of course, since it is Apple doing it there will be tons of hysteric posts about walled gardens etc.
Re: Patents...
It's obvious now, just like anything you have gotten used to is obvious.The mouse seems obvious, touch screens and multitouch seems obvious.
I suggest you go back to 2006 and look at touch screen user interfaces prior to the iPhone. I would also look at the original Android prototypes, they're nothing like how Android phones were when released. This suggests Google looked to see how popular the iPhone would be before being "inspired" by their UI.
An example of early Android:
http://gizmodo.com/334909/google-android-prototype-in-the-wild
Re: What did it for me
50 years is pretty insane, it's more like building up a pension than a generating a living.
But we all know that copyright was increased not for Cliff but for Disney as Mickey Mouse was about to leave copyright.
Re: "worldwide rights ... in 10 different countries"
If they only registered it in 10 countries then by buying the rights to 10 countries that makes the rights worldwide since part of the agreement would be that Apple would register rights in the other countries (if they hadn't already).
Proview are probably being bankrolled by Apple competitors anyway, they're practically going out of business.
Re: A mystery
People had owned their phones before and moved on, just like they had from Nokia. It takes a lot to go back to a brand you used to use but moved on from.
Re: :-(
Hence why I shake my head in disbelief every time a new Android phone is announced with an even bigger screen. Someone somewhere will justify carrying a 7 inch screened phone soon.
Perhaps this is why people don't carry their phones around the office. They go off repeatedly with phone calls, messages and calendar reminders and nobody is there to stop them.
Well at least it will be regulated unlike PayPal. Any bank service needs to abide by the financial regulations, PayPal doesn't as it isn't a bank.
I imagine many companies won't want to give out their mobile phone numbers though.
Re: Re: I wonder...
Oh come on, how many desktop applications ask you to access all the various APIs?
I can write an application on OSX that reads all the address book and sends it off to a server. You can almost certainly do the same thing on Windows and Linux.
The difference is people are more willing and naive when it comes to installing software on their phone.
Sounds like typical Sony, supplying technology designed to make people money rather than creating technology that improves peoples lives.
Who can forget their recent trick of bumping up Whitney's CD prices that backfired when they it got noticed.
Guess what, when you come to sell the Apple laptop you get a really good price for it. Try that with a generic PC laptop.
When buying cars people talk about depreciation, well just like a desirable car (VW Golf, BMW 3 Series) depreciation is much less with an Apple laptop. That alone is worth paying the extra for IMHO.
Or buy your PC laptop (or Citroen C5) and get nothing for it when you come to sell.
The question is why is Intel (aka Chipzilla) using other people's controllers? where's their own design?
Nobody wants Intel x86 on a phone. It doesn't run Windows, it offers no compatibility with Windows applications. There's simply no point to it, it is just a desperate attempt by Intel to stay relevant and in control as mobile computing grows.
Yes, it would be nice to have some competition to ARM but it should be from another efficient well designed CPU family (mobile PowerPC would be nice) not the legacy tat that is x86.
They're focussing on Apple at they are making a lot of money. But I doubt this extra money they're making is not by pressuring manufacturers into cutting corners, it is by the fact that their products are more expensive to buy in the first place.
To be honest, working conditions being audited by suppliers is only a short term fix. The long term fix is for China to respect human rights and for workers to form unions to ensure conditions are safe.
Korea is an emerging market? they've had broadband for years, are massively into online gaming and are very well known for like gadgets with a million features.
We're the slime that crawled out of the sea compared to them.
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