>OS X wasn't always the nimble lover of old hardware that it might be now
It was a new OS architecture though. Vista isn't, it's a hacked about version of Windows Server 2003 with GUI tweaks, DRM and an attempt at proper file system security.
The big difference between Windows, Linux and OSX is that OSX and Linux run well on existing hardware and can be adapted to run in limited resources (See Linux embedded devices and OSX on iPhone).
Microsoft has to face the fact that not everyone wants to upgrade hardware all the time to run their latest bloatware OS. Leopard runs on older Macs sufficiently, Vista won't run well on PC hardware that goes as far back as the Motorola G4.
Microsoft knows it has to force people to upgrade their PCs to generate more revenue as many users just buy a new machine with an OEM licence.
Gartner also pointed out that the iPhone uses OSX but Microsoft requires a different OS for their handhelds. Windows doesn't scale well and Intel's solution is to make a lower power x86 architecture.
If Microsoft can't fix their own product then who can?
Knowing Cowon they will address any limitations in future firmware. I had one of their mp3 players and it had regular updates to the firmware, improvements and new features as well as big fixes.
Nice of these big powerful Americans to fly all over the world and tell us we have to stop flying all over the world. But it's ok because we're nothing important and we're not preaching green politics.
People row boats around the world, even walk and cycle around it. This is what Mr Gore should do if he's serious about green politics.
What are you talking about? Apple got Intel to redesign the Core 2 Duo to make is smaller.
Even The Reg ran an article about it, the processor is now available to all, but if your thin laptop uses a small Core 2 then you can probably thank Apple for that:
The BBC are doing M$ and Sony a favour here, increasing the appeal of their devices.
I don't see why the BBC (funded by the licence fee) should spend extra time working with Sony and M$ pandering to their long list of demands (probably incorporating adverts in the process). It's not a good use of the licence payers money.
In fact, 7 will just be a finished version of Vista with the features Microsoft planned to include but had to remove due to their incompetent project management and lack of structure.
Copyright your fingerprint. It should be unique to you and it does belong to you. You can then sue for unauthorised duplication and reproduction of your copyrighted image.
As for all the other features, features are great so long as the phone works. I have GPS and other nice things on my Nokia, but every now and then when someone phones me the mic doesn't work and I have to reboot it.
What good are features if the core function of the device doesn't work 100%?
You purchase hardware with plenty of potential, the vendor decides not to implement all the features leaving you with a crippled product.
This is where Linux tends to excel, hardware support (where vendors make the info available or where it can be reverse engineered) is better than Windows. Support for hardware becomes obsolete very quickly.
She's obviously way too optimistic, like most people who don't understand what happens in the real world. She doesn't understand the shoddy working practices, limited resources etc.. of public transport.
If she was a little more cynical and assumed the worse then she wouldn't get so stressed.
Sadly nothing works as well as it should on this overcrowded rock.
---Why cant MS take a long hard look at firefox and realise IE in any form falls so far ---short of the standards firefox gives us?
Who cares? Microsoft is slowly becoming irrelevant. I wish they would stop the FUD against Linux and make their browser available for all platforms or just shelve it completely.
Sony got the design right first time. Nobody wants the clutter of external drives. Plus consoles aren't typically designed for expansion so if you buy one then it is updated you lose out.
Sony has actually removed features to cheapen the PS3.
Secondly I use Shuttle PC with MythTV for all my audio visual delights and this would need a Blu-ray ROM drive and Linux software to play it (remember the problems Linux users had with DVD playback?).
I will only get a blu-ray player once the technology has settled down, there's too much in the way of firmware upgrades going on which shows the specification is still in progress.
I'd also want to see if they make you sit through 5 minutes of trailers and copyright messages before you can watch the disc (no wonder people rip DVDs).
Atari ST released Early July 1985 (can't find any definitive date).
Amiga A1000 released 24th July 1985.
Who cares which was first. The Amiga was better, ST was a cheaper rushed to market design which featured the same awful sound as a Sinclair Spectrum 128k. Atari lost the Amiga to Commodore and needed a replacement fast. That's not to say it was no good, it had MIDI, PC compatible disc format, high res monitor and a reasonable OS.
Apple beat both of them to market anyway.
The original C64 case was nicknamed the breadbin btw, so this is a PC in a breadbin?
Why does one machine have to be the best? there were many computers around during its lifetime.
People were still using them in the mid 80s and at that time the Amiga A1000 was around and that seriously blew away all of the 8-bit machines around at the time.
The Beeb was okay, ideal for education and people who liked to write programs and make hardware as their hobby. There were some good games for it, but ultimately it was too expensive for home users and it lost out in the playground as none of your peers owned one.
I never met anyone who had a beeb at home, if anyone had an Acorn then it was the electron.
For the younger generation the Spectrums and Commodores were much more fun. Commodore having better hardware on the whole.
The C64 had a great demo scene and people pushed the hardware to the limits.
Performance should be good but it depends on the file system.
You can't write to flash as many times as a hard disk so they employ wear leveling which probably won't work too well with NTFS (it fragments quite a bit) as it writes in sequential order to even out the wear on the flash blocks.
People only bought the Razr because it was thin, the actual interface was awful.
Motorola could get away with simple phones back in the days of mono LCD screens and mono ringtones. I had a Timeport and it was an ok phone if dull compared to Ericsson.
Motorola need good designs, a decent OS in the phone and to vastly improve their image in the mobile arena. As it stands they may as well pull out and just become a chipset vendor.
"Because everytime MS try to bundle something with Windows they get slapped with an anti-competitive lawsuit."
Wrong, Microsoft don't bundle things like Internet Explorer and Windows Media Player, they integrate it into the OS and make sure some critical service requires it.
Apple sells products like iLife separately and it can be uninstalled.
The difference is you become the killer when playing a game.
When watching a film you are just watching, they're not interactive.
A normal sociable person who plays such a game for a few hours a week won't be affected. A person who has no friends, stops in and plays games all the time might be affected.
Graphics are becoming more realistic and it's easy to lose sense of where you are.
"Li-ion batteries are not as durable as nickel metal hydride or nickel-cadmium designs and can be extremely dangerous if mistreated. They are usually more expensive."
The rule should be if you have a patent and wish to sue someone who infringes it then you need to have a product of your own out there.
That stops patent trolls patenting every idea under the sun that they can think of.
Gibson will just ruin their image, they're just cashing in on the popularity of this game, something that will actually help them in the long run by introducing people to guitar music and possibly getting them to take up real guitars.
The rich in the UK don't pay much tax, they're supposed to but they have ways of getting around it. In fact the IR have even said they don't pursue people who have accountants.
Given the recent abolishon of the 10% rate the tax burden has shifted to the low paid.
There is no way politicians (well paid ones at that) should need tax payers to fund TVs and the like. If they're doing their work they won't have much time to watch them anyway.
"You're in Big Trouble now! Little bastard Stevie Jobs has spent the last less than a decade convincing the World that he, the Great iNOvator, Invented the Pocket Media Player!"
No he hasn't, but for all intent and purposes the iPod is the MP3 player to most people. The name iPod and words like podcasting are in common use. Ask anyone to name an mp3 player and the iPod will be their answer in most cases.
You really need to get a life Webster Phreaky, how old are you, 12?
Bad idea, failed once already and is likely to 'Carry on failing'.
You just can't find the same quality of actors and actresses as they had back then, not to mention you have to be PC and not offend anyone's culture or religion.
Give the choice of two versions of Windows, which would you like:
Windows A:
* Fast performance.
* Little or no DRM, do what you want with your computer and not having some media bureaucrat telling you what to do.
* With Windows A you can copy files around your network fast!
* Great compatibility with hardware
* Affordable price
* Security a little weak, get a good AV and firewall.
Or do you want Windows B:
Windows B
* Flashy new features nobody wants
* Ludicrously expensive
* Free media shackles, you can't use HD unless you buy a new HDCP compliant monitor.
* New performance features throttle your network speed if you play mp3s
* 3D Interface to make managing the god awful Windows GUI a little easier, at the expense of buying a powerful 3D card and causing even more climate change.
* New activation process, activate or we cripple your machine dramatically, even if you have a valid key that has been already used by a pirate. Unless of course you use Windows B SP1, which isn't released yet as that doesn't work either.
* Support for almost none of your hardware that hasn't been purchased in the last week.
* Annoying popups that appear all the time to reassure you that Microsoft understands the need for security.
* Completely rearranged interface which is now more logical, even though you've become used to the illogical Windows ways of old. Don't worry, if you find it hard to use you can pay us to retrain all your staff, family etc.
"While ignoring the fact that the majority of malware for Windows requires EXACTLY the same thing."
XP doesn't require your password, Vista does, but the access controls are so annoying people turn them off.
Not to mention that if your installer was released and compiled with the Windows API prior to Vista then Vista determines what to do based on the filename!!! so if it's called Setup.exe it asks for a password, otherwise it doesn't!!!
Mac viruses are much less common for a few reasons, firstly who is going to buy a premium computer and then write software to destroy it? secondly it is a more secure OS without question. Security controls and permissions where there from day one of OSX. Windows has had to retrofit it and the behaviour of older applications doesn't fit with the new security model of Vista, so Microsoft has left gaping holes for backward compatibility purposes.
You think you'll get 100% but lets face it, what is better:
100% of £100
or 70% of £1000?
Apple will quality assure your application (so it's not a buggy piece of s***), promote it on one of their websites and take away the hassle of receiving payment (and all the scammers and fraudsters), plus you don't have to devise a licence key system.
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>OS X wasn't always the nimble lover of old hardware that it might be now
It was a new OS architecture though. Vista isn't, it's a hacked about version of Windows Server 2003 with GUI tweaks, DRM and an attempt at proper file system security.
Differences between Windows, Linux and OSX
The big difference between Windows, Linux and OSX is that OSX and Linux run well on existing hardware and can be adapted to run in limited resources (See Linux embedded devices and OSX on iPhone).
Microsoft has to face the fact that not everyone wants to upgrade hardware all the time to run their latest bloatware OS. Leopard runs on older Macs sufficiently, Vista won't run well on PC hardware that goes as far back as the Motorola G4.
Microsoft knows it has to force people to upgrade their PCs to generate more revenue as many users just buy a new machine with an OEM licence.
I agree with Gartner, Windows is doomed.
Gartner says Windows is collapsing, I agree.
Gartner also pointed out that the iPhone uses OSX but Microsoft requires a different OS for their handhelds. Windows doesn't scale well and Intel's solution is to make a lower power x86 architecture.
If Microsoft can't fix their own product then who can?
XP
Good to see Windows in it's rightful place, on the low end model.
Knowing Cowon
Knowing Cowon they will address any limitations in future firmware. I had one of their mp3 players and it had regular updates to the firmware, improvements and new features as well as big fixes.
Known about for ages
Nintendo were quoted as saying ages ago that they would introduce an even smaller DS once sales declined enough.
Phone?
This isn't a phone, it's a computer with a built in phone.
Vista is a poor choice for such a device, it barely runs well on full desktop hardware, never mind on UMPC type phone.
24-bit 96Khz
>And storing audio data at 96KHz is completely ridiculous
Says who?
If it is so ridiculous why is it the entry level in digital recording hardware? most studios have gone beyond this now with 192Khz D to A.
What would you rather listen to? the original studio master or a dithered downsampled 48Khz version?
Stop flying Mr Gore
Nice of these big powerful Americans to fly all over the world and tell us we have to stop flying all over the world. But it's ok because we're nothing important and we're not preaching green politics.
People row boats around the world, even walk and cycle around it. This is what Mr Gore should do if he's serious about green politics.
Cheapest possible components?
What are you talking about? Apple got Intel to redesign the Core 2 Duo to make is smaller.
Even The Reg ran an article about it, the processor is now available to all, but if your thin laptop uses a small Core 2 then you can probably thank Apple for that:
http://www.reghardware.co.uk/2008/02/04/intel_opens_air_cpu/
Re: I'm behind Sony/MS on this one
>>Seems fair enough to me.
The BBC are doing M$ and Sony a favour here, increasing the appeal of their devices.
I don't see why the BBC (funded by the licence fee) should spend extra time working with Sony and M$ pandering to their long list of demands (probably incorporating adverts in the process). It's not a good use of the licence payers money.
Music is everywhere
Newspapers give away free CDs, music is in the background of TV programmes more and more now.
Labels give away free downloads (never used to get much in the way for free, maybe on a cover tape on a magazine).
Music is cheaper to produce than ever and it is being further cheapened by it being given away.
7 will just be a reheated Vista
In fact, 7 will just be a finished version of Vista with the features Microsoft planned to include but had to remove due to their incompetent project management and lack of structure.
Re: Stop reporting
I don't like football, many people don't either. But the news always carries stories on it.
Here's a hint, if you don't like something then ignore it.
PS3
The only reason they have so much market share is the PS3. Without it they would be much further behind.
Copyright your fingerprints
Copyright your fingerprint. It should be unique to you and it does belong to you. You can then sue for unauthorised duplication and reproduction of your copyrighted image.
Re: Why do we need a 3G iPhone
Simple, so shut up those complaining it's not 3G.
As for all the other features, features are great so long as the phone works. I have GPS and other nice things on my Nokia, but every now and then when someone phones me the mic doesn't work and I have to reboot it.
What good are features if the core function of the device doesn't work 100%?
Re: Yahoo
"So what is so attractive about Yahoo? What products and services would be expected to flourish under the dead hand of Microsoft management?"
Have you used Flickr? it's pretty much *the* site for photographers.
This is the problem with drivers
You purchase hardware with plenty of potential, the vendor decides not to implement all the features leaving you with a crippled product.
This is where Linux tends to excel, hardware support (where vendors make the info available or where it can be reverse engineered) is better than Windows. Support for hardware becomes obsolete very quickly.
Way too optimistic
She's obviously way too optimistic, like most people who don't understand what happens in the real world. She doesn't understand the shoddy working practices, limited resources etc.. of public transport.
If she was a little more cynical and assumed the worse then she wouldn't get so stressed.
Sadly nothing works as well as it should on this overcrowded rock.
Damn
Mr Lee is in his twilight years and we might not get to see him reprise his role. I don't think the film would be as good without him.
Re: Advice
Telling the kids to hang out elsewhere has been tried before, see Gary Newlove. He got kicked to death.
RE:oh sweet lord...
---Why cant MS take a long hard look at firefox and realise IE in any form falls so far ---short of the standards firefox gives us?
Who cares? Microsoft is slowly becoming irrelevant. I wish they would stop the FUD against Linux and make their browser available for all platforms or just shelve it completely.
M$ adding features, Sony removing them
Sony got the design right first time. Nobody wants the clutter of external drives. Plus consoles aren't typically designed for expansion so if you buy one then it is updated you lose out.
Sony has actually removed features to cheapen the PS3.
Simple, don't buy an iMac
Any integrated device is going to be full of compromises. The only way to avoid such compromises is to buy a tower machine.
iMacs are full of laptop technology anyway, it seems they've now extended this to the screen as well (many laptops don't do 24-bit colour).
OLED would be great!
OLED means no backlight and the screen would possibly be able to stay on longer or constantly (maybe at a reduced brightness).
OLED displays are expensive however and still a relatively new technology.
Won't be getting one yet
First I would need a TV with 24Hz refresh.
Secondly I use Shuttle PC with MythTV for all my audio visual delights and this would need a Blu-ray ROM drive and Linux software to play it (remember the problems Linux users had with DVD playback?).
I will only get a blu-ray player once the technology has settled down, there's too much in the way of firmware upgrades going on which shows the specification is still in progress.
I'd also want to see if they make you sit through 5 minutes of trailers and copyright messages before you can watch the disc (no wonder people rip DVDs).
Pad too small
The touchpad will be too small to make multitouch comfortable.
The eeepc 900 pad is probably the size of a standard laptop touchpad. When Apple added multitouch they increased the size of the touchpad.
Greased palms
Nothing like a bit of palm greasing to change a few minds.
Re: The Amiga era eh?
Atari ST released Early July 1985 (can't find any definitive date).
Amiga A1000 released 24th July 1985.
Who cares which was first. The Amiga was better, ST was a cheaper rushed to market design which featured the same awful sound as a Sinclair Spectrum 128k. Atari lost the Amiga to Commodore and needed a replacement fast. That's not to say it was no good, it had MIDI, PC compatible disc format, high res monitor and a reasonable OS.
Apple beat both of them to market anyway.
The original C64 case was nicknamed the breadbin btw, so this is a PC in a breadbin?
Webster Phreaky - full time troll
Hi Webster Phreaky aka Keith Benicek.
Maybe you should spend your time better by getting a good job instead of trolling Apple postings and getting fired.
Best machine? why?
Why does one machine have to be the best? there were many computers around during its lifetime.
People were still using them in the mid 80s and at that time the Amiga A1000 was around and that seriously blew away all of the 8-bit machines around at the time.
The Beeb was okay, ideal for education and people who liked to write programs and make hardware as their hobby. There were some good games for it, but ultimately it was too expensive for home users and it lost out in the playground as none of your peers owned one.
I never met anyone who had a beeb at home, if anyone had an Acorn then it was the electron.
For the younger generation the Spectrums and Commodores were much more fun. Commodore having better hardware on the whole.
The C64 had a great demo scene and people pushed the hardware to the limits.
Adverts
Why is it acceptable to have adverts every 15-30 minutes in Formula One yet in Football they don't show any adverts until half-time?
They can't really have a half-time in F1 but they could show adverts a bit less frequently.
Re: F1
In motoro racing F1 is short for Formula 1.
The F1 on your keyboard is short for Function 1.
It's not that hard is it?
Performance
Performance should be good but it depends on the file system.
You can't write to flash as many times as a hard disk so they employ wear leveling which probably won't work too well with NTFS (it fragments quite a bit) as it writes in sequential order to even out the wear on the flash blocks.
Moto phones are rubbish
People only bought the Razr because it was thin, the actual interface was awful.
Motorola could get away with simple phones back in the days of mono LCD screens and mono ringtones. I had a Timeport and it was an ok phone if dull compared to Ericsson.
Motorola need good designs, a decent OS in the phone and to vastly improve their image in the mobile arena. As it stands they may as well pull out and just become a chipset vendor.
Re: nothing wrong with IIS
If Apache was so bad then Micrsoft wouldn't be cloning it.
Have a look at the new Apache and open source style features featured in the Server 2008 platform:
http://port25.technet.com/archive/2008/02/27/opening-windows-server-2008.aspx
Microsoft 'bundles'
"Because everytime MS try to bundle something with Windows they get slapped with an anti-competitive lawsuit."
Wrong, Microsoft don't bundle things like Internet Explorer and Windows Media Player, they integrate it into the OS and make sure some critical service requires it.
Apple sells products like iLife separately and it can be uninstalled.
Re: i dont see the issue...
The difference is you become the killer when playing a game.
When watching a film you are just watching, they're not interactive.
A normal sociable person who plays such a game for a few hours a week won't be affected. A person who has no friends, stops in and plays games all the time might be affected.
Graphics are becoming more realistic and it's easy to lose sense of where you are.
Competition is good
Life would be simpler if there was only one OS and computing platform. However the consumer would be ripped off.
The difference in the media world is no one company owns the format. If only the same thing existed in the computing world.
Anything with a Lithium Ion battery can explode
If you get a laptop or device with a Lithium Ion battery hot enough then it will explode.
Apple doesn't make batteries, it sources them other companies. A failure in the battery isn't a design failure in the laptop.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lithium_ion#Disadvantages
"Li-ion batteries are not as durable as nickel metal hydride or nickel-cadmium designs and can be extremely dangerous if mistreated. They are usually more expensive."
Simple rule on patents
The rule should be if you have a patent and wish to sue someone who infringes it then you need to have a product of your own out there.
That stops patent trolls patenting every idea under the sun that they can think of.
Gibson will just ruin their image, they're just cashing in on the popularity of this game, something that will actually help them in the long run by introducing people to guitar music and possibly getting them to take up real guitars.
Robbing from the poor and giving to the rich
The rich in the UK don't pay much tax, they're supposed to but they have ways of getting around it. In fact the IR have even said they don't pursue people who have accountants.
Given the recent abolishon of the 10% rate the tax burden has shifted to the low paid.
There is no way politicians (well paid ones at that) should need tax payers to fund TVs and the like. If they're doing their work they won't have much time to watch them anyway.
iPod ithe mp3 player
"You're in Big Trouble now! Little bastard Stevie Jobs has spent the last less than a decade convincing the World that he, the Great iNOvator, Invented the Pocket Media Player!"
No he hasn't, but for all intent and purposes the iPod is the MP3 player to most people. The name iPod and words like podcasting are in common use. Ask anyone to name an mp3 player and the iPod will be their answer in most cases.
You really need to get a life Webster Phreaky, how old are you, 12?
Microsoft innovation!
Only 6 or 7 years behind Apple in this market and they can't even be bothered to try and flog us their dull and restricted product.
By the time they get off their behind and sell it here everyone else will be doing iPhone type devices.
Get a DVB card
Get a dual tuner DVB card and some software, record all you like in mpeg2 near DVD quality.
Saves wasting internet bandwidth and messing around with stupid DRM schemes.
"Carry on failling" to see the point
Bad idea, failed once already and is likely to 'Carry on failing'.
You just can't find the same quality of actors and actresses as they had back then, not to mention you have to be PC and not offend anyone's culture or religion.
Which version of Windows do you want?
Give the choice of two versions of Windows, which would you like:
Windows A:
* Fast performance.
* Little or no DRM, do what you want with your computer and not having some media bureaucrat telling you what to do.
* With Windows A you can copy files around your network fast!
* Great compatibility with hardware
* Affordable price
* Security a little weak, get a good AV and firewall.
Or do you want Windows B:
Windows B
* Flashy new features nobody wants
* Ludicrously expensive
* Free media shackles, you can't use HD unless you buy a new HDCP compliant monitor.
* New performance features throttle your network speed if you play mp3s
* 3D Interface to make managing the god awful Windows GUI a little easier, at the expense of buying a powerful 3D card and causing even more climate change.
* New activation process, activate or we cripple your machine dramatically, even if you have a valid key that has been already used by a pirate. Unless of course you use Windows B SP1, which isn't released yet as that doesn't work either.
* Support for almost none of your hardware that hasn't been purchased in the last week.
* Annoying popups that appear all the time to reassure you that Microsoft understands the need for security.
* Completely rearranged interface which is now more logical, even though you've become used to the illogical Windows ways of old. Don't worry, if you find it hard to use you can pay us to retrain all your staff, family etc.
Erm?
"While ignoring the fact that the majority of malware for Windows requires EXACTLY the same thing."
XP doesn't require your password, Vista does, but the access controls are so annoying people turn them off.
Not to mention that if your installer was released and compiled with the Windows API prior to Vista then Vista determines what to do based on the filename!!! so if it's called Setup.exe it asks for a password, otherwise it doesn't!!!
Mac viruses are much less common for a few reasons, firstly who is going to buy a premium computer and then write software to destroy it? secondly it is a more secure OS without question. Security controls and permissions where there from day one of OSX. Windows has had to retrofit it and the behaviour of older applications doesn't fit with the new security model of Vista, so Microsoft has left gaping holes for backward compatibility purposes.
You'll never get 100%
You think you'll get 100% but lets face it, what is better:
100% of £100
or 70% of £1000?
Apple will quality assure your application (so it's not a buggy piece of s***), promote it on one of their websites and take away the hassle of receiving payment (and all the scammers and fraudsters), plus you don't have to devise a licence key system.
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