> If it was still in use why were they happy to do a deal to sell it for just £35k?
Taking the figures from that WSJ article Proview were spending more on development and marketing than they made in sales of those 20K "iPads" they sold each year.
£35000 for a loss-making brand must have sounded great at the time.
Also in Apple-related news, the Australian Transport Safety bureau published their report on the iPhone that caught fire aboard an aircraft last November.
(tl;dr; caused by a botched repair by a third party repair centre that left a loose screw inside the phone)
> Certified flavours of Unix shouldn't go logging passwords in clear-text to log files in /var.
Yet I recall having to clear up many instances of cleartext passwords from logs, back in my HP-UX days.. Guess what, bugs happen especially when scenarios get more complex.
More recently I was finding Ubuntu Linux (Breezy) saving the cleartext password of the admin user under /var/log after installation.
As I said before, if you care about security the best is to encrypt the whole disk.
Many services tend to log passwords to log files. Not sure if PostgresSQL and Mysql still do, but not very long ago they did. You also get people typing the password in place of the login. All those cases usually get recorded in log files outside of the users' home directory.
> So we are now blaming Microsoft for lax security based upon a flawed protocol developed by Apple?
Yes, I was mentioning the issue where the Bitlocker password was left in an easy to read location in RAM. Firewire is just one way to reach it, you can also boot from a different disk or even read the data using a special PCI (or mini-PCI) card.
Also it's silly to blame Firewire for allowing remote DMA access. It's the implementation in some machines that makes it a security problem, a correct implementation can either leave the DMA disabled until properly authorised, or can filter remote DMA requests only for devices that need it and/or are approved. This is done in most modern systems.
This is clearly a bug in the migration process but "Legacy" Filevault never felt very safe to start with, since it only encrypted home directories.
Anyone seriously concerned with security would have been using the commercial PGP Whole Disk, or the new Filevault 2 that came with OSX Lion, both of which offer much better whole disk encryption.
ps: before Microsoft fans get overly smug over this let me just say two words: "bitlocker vista"
I never said destroy Java - ACs overdramatising, what's new - but the Android's Java clone is certainly fragmentation since it doesn't align with either the Java SE or Java ME platforms - it's a new platform.
As for Samba, they didn't copy the API since they don't have the source code for Microsoft's file sharing services. They reverse engineered it. Reverse engineering for interoperability is covered under fair use.
Google is not attempting interoperability or a "workable implementation" of existing Java platforms, you can't take a Java SE or ME app or even compile it's source code and run it on Android, you must code it specifically for Android. That's not interoperability.
Except interoperability is protected by law, and in SAMBA's case doubly so by the antitrust measures applied to Microsoft.
So there's nothing to worry about in SAMBA's et al cases. SAMBA is completely legal and even protected by law.
On the other hand if your goal is to copy the API to fragment the platform, like Google did in this case, then you should start thinking of seeking legal advice.
From James Gosling (father of Java at Sun and recent ex-Googler) himself
"Just because Sun didn’t have patent suits in our genetic code doesn’t mean we didn’t feel wronged. While I have differences with Oracle, in this case they are in the right. Google totally slimed Sun. We were all really disturbed, even Jonathan: he just decided to put on a happy face and tried to turn lemons into lemonade, which annoyed a lot of folks at Sun."
Sniffing and recording your (unencrypted) WiFi data is akin to someone coming up to the window of your house with a video camera and recording what goes on inside.
Yes, it's public and there for all to see, but would you be happy with that?
The problem is that It is 4G capable. There is working 4G LTE modem inside. Just not compatible with the frequencies currentlydeployed in Australia.
How do you name this, 4G-just not the frequency for this country? I don't know. But given the mess that is LTE frequencies and LTE systems (TD versus FD for example) around the world I suspect we'll be seeing a lot more devices with this problem.
Mostly excuses to mask the simple fact that an easy to use publishing tool for e-magazines is not out yet.
Publishers want to press a button in InDesign and out comes a nicely package they can send to the app store. Unfortunately what comes out now is a bit rubbish (even the PDF output - keep in mind PDF is still a programming language and we all know how bad auto-generated code can be)
I'm sure Adobe is working on this already, but right now the market is just full of mostly crappy tools.
The font cost however is true, licensing a commercial font for embedding into an app can cost from $200 to over $1000. But still I don't see how that' would be a problem for any of the large publishers.
That's not much more than the cost of a couple of Adobe software licenses.
There's also free fonts (eg SIL Open font licensed) for those publications that can't afford the commercial ones.
No it's not ridiculous at all, the Raspberry Pi launch was all over the popular media. It even made super hot deal at Hotukdeals, definitely not a serious developer site. "Regular" people were jumping over themselves to buy one.
In hindsight the first batch should never have been marketed widely as a cheap PC. There's a boatload of other issues too (like the SD card incompatibilities and the lack of any X11 acceleration) to sort out too before it becomes something a something the public will find enjoyable.
In their desire to beat Lady Gaga's popularity they just flew too close to the sun. Let's see if they can recover.
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How to f*** the Pi
No, not like the movie. The other kind where the magic smoke is released.
1) Send 5v to GPIO pin while it's set high.
2) Short the 3.3v and 5v pins (both very conveniently placed at top and bottom left of the connector)
Got to love the titles here
Changing the title to match reality, ie "OFF-THE-SHELF FORENSICS TOOL SLURPS IPHONE DATA VIA ICLOUD IF YOU HAVE THE USERS LOGIN AND PASSWORD"
wouldn't make it seem such an interesting achievement.
> The big difference is that you have chromeOS as just one of several OS'son a machine and so have choice.
What about the Chromebooks?
Get out of monopoly free card
Of course Microsoft had their lawyers review this decision and find that they are within their legal rights to do this.
If you read the Findings of Fact from Microsoft's monopoly case you'll see that it just mentions "Intel-compatible PC".
ARM is a whole new world to be explo(red|ited).
"hurry up and hold the 4G spectrum auction"
Isn't the late timing of the auction due by the TV Analog switchover that is still going on in parts of the UK?
Why so sad?
Think of how much fun the blackhat community will have exploiting these cars.
Re: @AC 07:24
> If it was still in use why were they happy to do a deal to sell it for just £35k?
Taking the figures from that WSJ article Proview were spending more on development and marketing than they made in sales of those 20K "iPads" they sold each year.
£35000 for a loss-making brand must have sounded great at the time.
Re: Cue the moans from current Air owners going....
It's not Apple that does a laptop called Envy is it... Try HP.
Re: This is news?
Also in Apple-related news, the Australian Transport Safety bureau published their report on the iPhone that caught fire aboard an aircraft last November.
(tl;dr; caused by a botched repair by a third party repair centre that left a loose screw inside the phone)
Not the first..
> Certified flavours of Unix shouldn't go logging passwords in clear-text to log files in /var.
Yet I recall having to clear up many instances of cleartext passwords from logs, back in my HP-UX days.. Guess what, bugs happen especially when scenarios get more complex.
More recently I was finding Ubuntu Linux (Breezy) saving the cleartext password of the admin user under /var/log after installation.
As I said before, if you care about security the best is to encrypt the whole disk.
> What would one gain by whole disk thing?
Many services tend to log passwords to log files. Not sure if PostgresSQL and Mysql still do, but not very long ago they did. You also get people typing the password in place of the login. All those cases usually get recorded in log files outside of the users' home directory.
> So we are now blaming Microsoft for lax security based upon a flawed protocol developed by Apple?
Yes, I was mentioning the issue where the Bitlocker password was left in an easy to read location in RAM. Firewire is just one way to reach it, you can also boot from a different disk or even read the data using a special PCI (or mini-PCI) card.
Also it's silly to blame Firewire for allowing remote DMA access. It's the implementation in some machines that makes it a security problem, a correct implementation can either leave the DMA disabled until properly authorised, or can filter remote DMA requests only for devices that need it and/or are approved. This is done in most modern systems.
This is clearly a bug in the migration process but "Legacy" Filevault never felt very safe to start with, since it only encrypted home directories.
Anyone seriously concerned with security would have been using the commercial PGP Whole Disk, or the new Filevault 2 that came with OSX Lion, both of which offer much better whole disk encryption.
ps: before Microsoft fans get overly smug over this let me just say two words: "bitlocker vista"
<Insert soviet russia joke here>
Most modern smartphones (e.g. iPhone 4S) have GLONASS.
The reason is simply, Russia is planning to - if it doesn't already - apply a 25% import tax to phones
that don't support it.
Re: Not the first
You thought correctly, in fact I have one right here.
Seems El Reg's hack drank too much of the PR kool-aid.
Re: Security
> 3. Find an email address or phone number to report the problem
http://www.apple.com/support/itunes/contact/
Have always answered me in under 24h.
Re: Yeah but
Now try watching Freeview HD on a "HD-Ready" TV, something that many customers would also believe should be possible...
Re: Typical El Reg
> You could probably Google for a set of questions that produce reliable, personal, and secure answers
Can you suggest some?
Especially some which won't make people complain that Apple is probing too deeply into their personal lives...
@AC
Wow good catch AC. I can't believe Anna Leach missed out on "fruity", she practically used every other adjective.
Re: so if APIs are copyrightable...
@AC
I never said destroy Java - ACs overdramatising, what's new - but the Android's Java clone is certainly fragmentation since it doesn't align with either the Java SE or Java ME platforms - it's a new platform.
As for Samba, they didn't copy the API since they don't have the source code for Microsoft's file sharing services. They reverse engineered it. Reverse engineering for interoperability is covered under fair use.
Google is not attempting interoperability or a "workable implementation" of existing Java platforms, you can't take a Java SE or ME app or even compile it's source code and run it on Android, you must code it specifically for Android. That's not interoperability.
Re: so if APIs are copyrightable...
Except interoperability is protected by law, and in SAMBA's case doubly so by the antitrust measures applied to Microsoft.
So there's nothing to worry about in SAMBA's et al cases. SAMBA is completely legal and even protected by law.
On the other hand if your goal is to copy the API to fragment the platform, like Google did in this case, then you should start thinking of seeking legal advice.
From James Gosling (father of Java at Sun and recent ex-Googler) himself
"Just because Sun didn’t have patent suits in our genetic code doesn’t mean we didn’t feel wronged. While I have differences with Oracle, in this case they are in the right. Google totally slimed Sun. We were all really disturbed, even Jonathan: he just decided to put on a happy face and tried to turn lemons into lemonade, which annoyed a lot of folks at Sun."
http://nighthacks.com/roller/jag/entry/my_attitude_on_oracle_v
Re: WTF?
Sniffing and recording your (unencrypted) WiFi data is akin to someone coming up to the window of your house with a video camera and recording what goes on inside.
Yes, it's public and there for all to see, but would you be happy with that?
"Rebranded"
Not really a rebrand is it.. A rebrand would be something like MS-DOS (aka Seattle Computer 86-DOS)...
But yeah El Reg must fill its weekly troll quota, it's been a bit low lately.
Offline requirements
Offline access requires Chrome: https://support.google.com/drive/bin/answer.py?hl=en&answer=2375012&p=local_offline
Why?
Not happy with all these tie ins, I'll give it a pass.
Re: Can someone explain this to me?
The problem is that It is 4G capable. There is working 4G LTE modem inside. Just not compatible with the frequencies currentlydeployed in Australia.
How do you name this, 4G-just not the frequency for this country? I don't know. But given the mess that is LTE frequencies and LTE systems (TD versus FD for example) around the world I suspect we'll be seeing a lot more devices with this problem.
Not really the same as the Google concept...
This is more a demo of Siri-style voice recognition than the location-aware, context-aware, image recognising concept Google was peddling.
Sure, Mr Powell copied the icons but the experience is not even close.
The glasses he uses also have a full size lens. Google is attempting the impossible (according to one AR expert by using a much smaller screen.
This bodes well considering your previous story "Chinese app stores host malicious apps".
(Google Play store doesn’t support paid apps in China, hence the store fragmentation)
Mostly excuses to mask the simple fact that an easy to use publishing tool for e-magazines is not out yet.
Publishers want to press a button in InDesign and out comes a nicely package they can send to the app store. Unfortunately what comes out now is a bit rubbish (even the PDF output - keep in mind PDF is still a programming language and we all know how bad auto-generated code can be)
I'm sure Adobe is working on this already, but right now the market is just full of mostly crappy tools.
The font cost however is true, licensing a commercial font for embedding into an app can cost from $200 to over $1000. But still I don't see how that' would be a problem for any of the large publishers.
That's not much more than the cost of a couple of Adobe software licenses.
There's also free fonts (eg SIL Open font licensed) for those publications that can't afford the commercial ones.
Only Apple doing this?
All the laptops I see on Dell UK's website only mention: "1Yr Collect & Returns Warranty"
Even Dell Germany's website only says "1 Jahr Schutz im Lieferumfang des PCs mit enthalten"
(means 1 year warranty coverage)
No mention there of any 2 year EU-mandated coverage.
Re: " And sometimes people have a considerably better device like iPhones and iPads, for example"
Android 3 doesn't run on phones... only tablets.
Re: " And sometimes people have a considerably better device like iPhones and iPads, for example"
> Didn't LG have a phone that did visualization on Android that allowed a work partition and a personal partition?
Yes, one model on Verizon LTE, not much use for BYO here in the UK then.
> Of course all Android support remote wipe if they get lost or stolen.
So do all iOS devices. iPhones and iPads also support hardware device encryption, something that only Android 4 phones (less than 2%) have.
Re: Alternative view
> Sky have photos of actual Foxconn workers protesting about the conditions who have welcomed these changes
Where? The only protesters shown in that article are not Foxconn workers, they're SACOM protesters, a labour rights organisation in Hong Kong.
Also interesting that all products shown in the Foxconn factory video are NOT Apple devices.
Re: Prototypes are never CE marked
Negative dear AC, straight from the 2nd page of the Beagleboard manual:
"NOTE: This equipment has been tested and found to comply with the limits for a Class B digital device, pursuant to Part 15 of the FCC Rules."
It has been FCC certified. That other phrase is just a general disclaimer.
Re: Prototypes are never CE marked
@PaulM 1
No it's not ridiculous at all, the Raspberry Pi launch was all over the popular media. It even made super hot deal at Hotukdeals, definitely not a serious developer site. "Regular" people were jumping over themselves to buy one.
In hindsight the first batch should never have been marketed widely as a cheap PC. There's a boatload of other issues too (like the SD card incompatibilities and the lack of any X11 acceleration) to sort out too before it becomes something a something the public will find enjoyable.
In their desire to beat Lady Gaga's popularity they just flew too close to the sun. Let's see if they can recover.
Re: Prototypes are never CE marked
> They've already sold the first 10k - they can't sell them again.
Actually they haven't :-) All they have is a few thousand pre-orders and a few hundred thousand
"expressions of interest".
Payment has not been collected, units have not been shipped, so no sale has been final.
Re: Prototypes are never CE marked
For £100 you can get a Beagleboard, which is faster, has more features, is well tested and supported with a range of peripherals.
You'd have to be a bit mad to pay £100 for the Raspberry Pi. Not sure you'd find 10,000 of them.
"0.5% of Android revenues"
What are Android revenues exactly? I thought Google had no direct revenues from Android.
Re: Thanks again
Noo, that would screw up my ad removal algorithm :)
Re: LTE? 4G? what?
Actually LTE is not true approved 4G, only LTE Advanced satisfies the original criteria for 4G.
Latency
USB latency is much higher, I've measured 0.5ms latency for a SSD on SATA, while the same SSD on USB 3 measured 5-12ms.
I'd expect Thunerbolt to be the same or close to raw SATA.
Re: How much?
Clearly you never purchased an external SCSI cable.
This cable is active (contains electronics inside both plugs).
But sounds like you don't actually need this drive.
"Poor man's Mac Mini"?
at $2495?
More like poor choice of subtitle.
Re: Gave up reading at
Surely he meant BeOS?
Happy day
What better way to celebrate this than with a major Chrome-exclusive dick move.
"The change will only happen for those using Google Chrome, as that’s the only browser that supports the meta referrer tag, Google told us."
Get ready for the
OpenGoogle Web.Re: ROTFL
No Craigness, the last time a Windows machine crashed at a major Microsoft keynote.
ROTFL
At least it wasn't a BSOD like last time:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wpj1SgQQ984
Good luck trying do download anything from that website.
After trying Firefox, Chrome and Safari I give up.
My nominations
1st - 2 girls 1 cup
2nd - Richard Stallman picking things off his bare feet, putting them into his mouth and chewing
@AC 13:43
Thanks for missing the (not so subtle) point of the OP and ruining the joke, you insensitive clod.
Read (and watch) this for enlightenment.
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