Or if you're not trolling, perhaps you meant "The normally apathetic middle class in the US has woken up since 2008 and is taking more of an interest in their government than ever before, and generally they are against handouts and subsidies to the rich (staples of the Republican election machine)."
Are you one of these doorknobs who thinks that tax breaks somehow are some form of spending "cost"? If so, I'm coming by your house, because if I don't steal your TV it will effectively "cost" me $500.
But hey, if you want to talk about everyone paying their "fair share" how about a flat tax so the 49% who currently pay nothing (or get money back for not working) can pay the same rate as those awful rich people who are plainly getting off scott free?
The only people Democrats help is themselves by pandering. While the fundamentalist conservatives are bad, the fact is that without financial freedom ALL other freedoms suffer. The Democrats abhor financial freedom, as a dependent population can be counted on to keep them in power. Most intelligent Americans can do basic math, and can see the Democrat financial "plan" is nothing more than smoke and mirrors just to motivate their voter base: who are also incapable of math.
That said, there is a lot of fear among Dems so I am not surprised to see one pull this stunt. The normally apathetic middle class in the US has woken up since 2008 and is taking more of an interest in their government than ever before, and generally they are against handouts and subsidies (staples of the Democrat election process). The political advertising and media machinery have gotten ever more creative lately trying to prevent another 2010 landslide upheaval in Congress. Roque probably isn't the first politician to do this, but he might be the first one to get caught.
"Essentially their socialist form of government has utterly and completely failed."
The "form of government" is a parliamentary republic and the president and parliament of the 3rd Republic has been right wing and centre right more often than it has been left wing. You should probably have stuck with your first sentence
Right wing and center... for GREECE, the people who nearly revolted at some austerity measures that were 100% necessary. "Right wing" for Greece = left wing pretty much everywhere else! One can only imagine how bad their liberals are in the scheme of things...
The EU told them it was either no more handouts or no more bailouts, and the voting population of Greece walked away from the table in protest. Any country that dependent on handouts leans pretty far to the left in general.
You'd rather have a smashed hood AND windscreen rather than just a Hood and replacement Airbag? ie probably cheaper
Actually it is cheaper to replace a windshield than a "normal" interior airbag. How much more do you suppose this custom exterior airbag will cost to replace?
"But, ah, the old 'no consequences' line because you can now change builds without re-rolling."
I think he meant "no consequences" because the choices you make really do not matter. There are just a couple choices per key, and not hundreds of combos like there were in D2. WoW is doing the same thing, going from complex and vibrant talent trees to 6 choices of 3 selections each. Woo for variety!!?
I think the trend of dumbing down games to keep the mouthbreathers playing is a sad one, because I remember when gaming took some thought and dare I say "skill".
The tax money is the real issue here. If it wasn't for that, the idea would be to avoid the shoddy investment banks. However, since the money is guaranteed by the gub'mint, the risk can be taken with no fear for the loss.
Unless you mean pension funds, which shouldn't be insured for $100k anyhow.
Re: @AC 15 May 16:22GMT: Brumley was spouting semi-crap
[i]o Communications: bullshit. Unless you've got data-carrying capability from Point A to Point B, where Point A and Point B are places anybody actually cares sending data to and from, you've got nothing to sell to communications companies. Comm companies aren't going to pay to establish links to/from Robot Town unless there's a significant market there.
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True, unless you start thinking of large dish arrays or testing of point to point communications (microcells and such)...
Yeah, because the best way to hide is to be the only surface dwelling people in an empty town monitored 24/7 by hundreds of underground technicians. Certainly the traffickers would go completely unnoticed.
To be honest, I don't know if I should flame you or feel sorry for you. You should definitely keep to your pretentious, small-minded life and leave real thinking to the big boys
"JPM that go caught betting and losing 2 Billion dollars to keep BETTING unsuspecting hardworking people's retirement and savings (mutual funds and 401k),"
Investing is betting, PERIOD. You risk your money in hopes that you will have more at the end.
Nice rant and all, but I'm pretty sure you don't really understand economics that well.
That said, YES Facebook is a fools buy, it's an inflated pop stock with no sustainable business model.
How about making the people at the lower end of the spectrum more effective, so that perhaps they can do more than convert O2 into CO2 and pop out sprogs to further drain the economy and the environment?
Every time I see some halfwit "TAX THE RICH" basher like yourself it amazes me that you won't hold everyone else to the same standards of accountability. At least the rich and corporations are producing something other than more unmotivated uneducated consumers of global resources.
With regards to food, the USA currently pays farmers not to farm. Seems rather silly when there is a food shortage, no?
At least the assertion about nuke plants is spot on.
"38 years ? for goodness sake, does anyone imagine that our politicians will not have destroyed our world and its so-called economy in that timespan ? and even if they haven't, uncontrolled human procreation will probably do the trick very nicely. Get real, everyone ; this culture is doomed."
The problems are one and the same, the politicians subsidizing procreation is ruining the economy and the environment all at once. I see people daily who have 5+ kids just to get the government checks. Stop paying for it, and it will stop happening... at least on this side of the pond.
Are you going to claim that some women don't use their gender to their advantage whenever possible? (Some, not all)
If it is fair to say that some men are sexist pigs (and some are), then it is also fair to say that women (some not all) play to that to get what they want.
"Look at it this way, we know beating a dog is an ineffective way of training it so why do you expect it to work any better with a child?"
I challenge you to train EITHER of them if the dog/child doesn't think YOU are the one in charge. If the dog thinks it is in charge, you'll get bitten and if the kid thinks it, you'll get ignored.
I said Obama, not democrats. Obama does a lot of things I can support (opposing CISPA for example) but overall I think he has done more harm than good.
Of course, my original post was actually a reply to the first poster. Telling anyone to STFU is pretty childish, so I was simply making his point in reverse back to him.
"Microsoft have much more serious competition now - most corporates do not want Linux / Unix desktops - but OS X - why not?"
I think Linux has been heard enough at the upper management level that resistance is eroding. Part of the reservation was the fact that Linux looked a kludge until recently, part was the worry about retraining and reteaching users (new Windows is going to do that anyway), and part of it was uncertainty about reliability and such... Nobody ever got fired for buying Microsoft products.
However, business is now looking hard at every expense, and Linux has been proven time and again on servers and small devices, I would bet with the massive rework that is Win8 and beyond there is a bit of a migration at long last.
Well, enjoy rebuilding those custom bridges and rewriting those custom scripts when MS arbitrarily changes everything around again in Office2015.
Version stability for corporates was a large part of their success, and I don't think a 3 year upgrade cycle on the OS and all associated software will sit too well in the corporate world. You know, the vast majority of businesses who didn't have a network and infrastructure until they bought a bunch of XP machines and who don't view IT as a moving target...
Like it or not, MS preferred business model is at odds with what most beancounters (and IT bods) want in an OS in that environment.
Re: I will buy more of their Hardcopy because of this decision
"Rules, regulations and technology that can or do interfere with the availability of knowledge are among the most despicable things on earth. The 1% wants the 99% to be an unknowing, unquestioning "Idiocracy" and they cannot be allowed to win. DRM is only one front against the 1% that must be conquered."
I'm pretty sure the 99% had the ability to legally buy and view the ebooks even with the DRM. Perhaps you need to cut back on the Kool-aid?
I dunno about everyone else's reaction, but this singular piece of the market thinks Crytek can pound all their future releases up their collective asses.
"The main difference though is that Win7 also increases where functionality is concerned."
I was actually just ranting today that in our environment 7 is a step BACKWARDS from XP. Sure, it allows for >4GB of RAM and the use of SSD, but we don't use much of that. However, from my perspective it is harder to administer, everything from the more hidden "all users" desktop to the repeated erasing of the default gateway to the fact that you have to set up a printer first as admin before your users can install it to the default IPv6 to the crappy Bing addons needing to be disabled in every profile in the newer craptacular IE to the clunky sign-on screens you get in a domain.
7 is GREAT for home use, but positively sucks compared to XP in our domain. Maybe I'll grow fonder of it in time or if we stopped being a mixed mode XP/7 2k3/2k8 shop or if they bother to send me for some training on it, but in the interim it's been nothing more than a (very pretty) pain in the arse that's inflicted on us my XP's retirement and clueless managerial users who swear that shinier is better (even after Office 2010 beat some of that out of them to the point that they were clamoring for 2003 back).
I'm putting on my asbestos underwear for the incoming flames/downvotes/"yore dooin it RONG" posts.
Ironically, the Futurama episode about Robosexuality was just on last night... I thought their take on the religious aspect of it was quite appropriate.
"So, basically you are arguing for Judge Dredd-style in the spot executions, as happened recently in Florida."
Really? Which case was this? The only thing I know of from there is an unresolved self-defense case with no verdict yet that is being used as a political football by wannabe politicians who have nothing to play in their career except the race card.
a theory or system of social organization based on the holding of all property in common, actual ownership being ascribed to the community as a whole or to the state.
2.
(often initial capital letter) a system of social organization in which all economic and social activity is controlled by a totalitarian state dominated by a single and self-perpetuating political party.
Treating private property and funds as assets to be seized and redistributed would certainly fall under the first definition, and our latest foray into picking winners and losers in the market (well, trying to anyway) would surely cover the second definition. Perhaps a better word would have been socialist, but I don't shy from communist when the actions match the word. The very actions of many from our current administration follow those definitions, so I'm going to call it as I see it. The very notion of "equal outcomes" instead of "equal opportunity" is communist in nature.
As far as all the stuff all "good" countries do, it's all well and good until handouts replace jobs and a nanny state replaces personal responsibility. That is already occurring over here, and frankly we need LESS of that sort of thing, not more of it. I'm not saying we need to yank the safety net out from under grandma! Quite the opposite: she paid in her whole life, and that obligation needs to be honored. However, that 22 year old mother of 6 who dropped out of school to have kids knowing full well that she'd be taken care of has GOT to stop, and the only way to stop it is to make people deal with the consequences of their actions. The notion that her neighbor's paycheck partly belongs to her as well is very communistic (see definition 1).
Corporations fail, businesses fail, people fail, students fail. The government needs to get out of the way and let them fail, because without the risk of failure there can be no success. We have a malaise from the top down in this country, and the current schooling is trying to establish it from the bottom up.
Thumbs down back to you, simply because denying reality in the name of political correctness is a sure-fire path to failure.
Re: Nokia are doomed, but Elop could have done something
"That's nonsense, had Nokia taken the Android route, they could i'm sure be pushing out decent, affordable smartphones that are different from the rest."
Nokia IS pushing out smartphones that are different than the rest: no other manufacturer wants to make a phone with WP7!
Does it matter? After 12-20 hour shifts you want to SLEEP, not socialize.
The crewmen of most navies in the world live in more confined spaces than these workers, incidentally, especially submarine crews.
One more point: a climate controlled room with 8 bunks is a LOT better than a mud shanty farmhouse where you get eaten by bugs every night.
Those people go to FoxConn to work and take money home. If FoxConn built them bigger quarters, they would pay them less and the majority of those workers would rather have the money than a bigger room to themselves that sat empty 12 hours a day.
21.5 would be the quotient of 18 and 25, not the mean. Even then, the middle value is more likely to be the median than the mean (though it doesn't have to be).
But hey, why not feign ignorance of basic maths and just make a sterotypical joke instead?
Don't blame us as a whole! Our pseudo-communist overlords have taken our educational system from a place that taught facts and critical thinking to a place where everyone gets a gold star and a good brainwashing.
Re: Why have rules - we still get Enron, Bank implosions, and more
SarbOx compliance has cost investors more money that the scandals that caused it in the first place. The ONLY beneficiaries of it have been the accounting firms.
Another shining example of the effectiveness of government regulation in the financial sector, and why we don't need the government's "help".
Re: Kill all the "Hedgfund shareholders" before they kill what remains of AOL
If AOL and Kodak are your examples of this, then I'd like to point out that both companies were on extended life support after being irrelevant for YEARS before the vultures closed in.
Calling AOL alive made me chuckle too, it's more like a shambling corpse. It's been dead for a while now, the body just hasn't figured it out.
I think it needs to be skinned, gutted, and sold for scrap now while said scrap is still worth something... because in a few more years it will die anyway with a negative value and having chewed up a ton of capital that would have been better invested elsewhere.
Businesses fail, new ones start, that is how the free market works. Of course, judging by your vitriol aimed at the most common socialist scapegoat, I can see that you don't believe in the free market anyway.
Most patent exemptions now are based on "prior art" from 20 years ago... so since EVERYTHING is being patented today, what will become of the "prior art" we will need 20 years from now to continue innovating?
Painting ourselves into a corner, and all that. I've been ranting about this very thing for YEARS.
In all honesty, the facts in this case are still coming out and (as usual) people have a penchant for overreacting. The fact that this is just one giant race card being slapped down on the table is also not helping anyone.
If the races had been reversed, this never would have made national news (let alone local news) and there certainly wouldn't be marches in the street.
Same-race homicides are an order of magnitude more common in this country, and black on white homicide is consistently higher than white on black (Zimmerman is hispanic, by the way). See the bottom chart:
It's a sad state of affairs when some bastards are using this kids death as a means to further their own ends or to line their own pockets... (Jesse Jackson, I'm looking at YOU!)
Since the labor pool is vastly larger than the openings at Foxconn, price will not rise because supply heavily outweighs demand for the labor.
As far as the dormitories making the west more competitive, I wouldn't count on it. Even the US minimum wage is nearly double what Foxconn workers make, and the labor pool for minimum wage jobs in the US is less than employable. Those losses would more than make up for the cost of the additional dorms.
Did you miss the part where they mentioned Foxconn was looking at automation to reign in costs?
PINK SLIPS FOR ALL! HUZZAH!!!
It's a repeat of what happened to manufacturing in the USA. The labor pool got too pricey and those jobs went *poof* in a puff of automation and relocation.
Oh well, I'm sure the impoverished in Vietnam and Africa are looking forward to their new jobs... After all, 60 hours a week in a factory is better than 80+ hours a week in a farm field.
I'm sure the workers who get sent back to 80+ hours a week in the rice paddies will be grateful for all the "help".
It still amuses me that the Foxconn suicides which started this whole mess were still far below the suicide rate in China as a whole. The workers were LESS prone to off themselves than their agrarian bretheren, yet we still insisted on meddling in their lives.
I hope it was worth it when these displaced workers start offing themselves next fall.
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Re: You've GOT to be trolling.
Or if you're not trolling, perhaps you meant "The normally apathetic middle class in the US has woken up since 2008 and is taking more of an interest in their government than ever before, and generally they are against handouts and subsidies to the rich (staples of the Republican election machine)."
Are you one of these doorknobs who thinks that tax breaks somehow are some form of spending "cost"? If so, I'm coming by your house, because if I don't steal your TV it will effectively "cost" me $500.
But hey, if you want to talk about everyone paying their "fair share" how about a flat tax so the 49% who currently pay nothing (or get money back for not working) can pay the same rate as those awful rich people who are plainly getting off scott free?
You've GOT to be trolling.
The only people Democrats help is themselves by pandering. While the fundamentalist conservatives are bad, the fact is that without financial freedom ALL other freedoms suffer. The Democrats abhor financial freedom, as a dependent population can be counted on to keep them in power. Most intelligent Americans can do basic math, and can see the Democrat financial "plan" is nothing more than smoke and mirrors just to motivate their voter base: who are also incapable of math.
That said, there is a lot of fear among Dems so I am not surprised to see one pull this stunt. The normally apathetic middle class in the US has woken up since 2008 and is taking more of an interest in their government than ever before, and generally they are against handouts and subsidies (staples of the Democrat election process). The political advertising and media machinery have gotten ever more creative lately trying to prevent another 2010 landslide upheaval in Congress. Roque probably isn't the first politician to do this, but he might be the first one to get caught.
Re: ?
"Essentially their socialist form of government has utterly and completely failed."
The "form of government" is a parliamentary republic and the president and parliament of the 3rd Republic has been right wing and centre right more often than it has been left wing. You should probably have stuck with your first sentence
Right wing and center... for GREECE, the people who nearly revolted at some austerity measures that were 100% necessary. "Right wing" for Greece = left wing pretty much everywhere else! One can only imagine how bad their liberals are in the scheme of things...
The EU told them it was either no more handouts or no more bailouts, and the voting population of Greece walked away from the table in protest. Any country that dependent on handouts leans pretty far to the left in general.
Re: Where's the fuse?
You'd rather have a smashed hood AND windscreen rather than just a Hood and replacement Airbag? ie probably cheaper
Actually it is cheaper to replace a windshield than a "normal" interior airbag. How much more do you suppose this custom exterior airbag will cost to replace?
Re: Is it just me....
Exactly what I have been thinking. Seriously, look at the link.
http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/metro+sexual
Re: Lost all faith...
Oh ye of little faith, Microsoft is doing their absolute best to ensure that 201x is the year of the Linux desktop after all!
ICANN't
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Re: DRM infestation for casual muppets
"But, ah, the old 'no consequences' line because you can now change builds without re-rolling."
I think he meant "no consequences" because the choices you make really do not matter. There are just a couple choices per key, and not hundreds of combos like there were in D2. WoW is doing the same thing, going from complex and vibrant talent trees to 6 choices of 3 selections each. Woo for variety!!?
I think the trend of dumbing down games to keep the mouthbreathers playing is a sad one, because I remember when gaming took some thought and dare I say "skill".
Re: Geez..easily pleased or what?
They do it because it makes the reviewers go gaga over them, apparently.
Re: LOL
The tax money is the real issue here. If it wasn't for that, the idea would be to avoid the shoddy investment banks. However, since the money is guaranteed by the gub'mint, the risk can be taken with no fear for the loss.
Unless you mean pension funds, which shouldn't be insured for $100k anyhow.
Re: @AC 15 May 16:22GMT: Brumley was spouting semi-crap
[i]o Communications: bullshit. Unless you've got data-carrying capability from Point A to Point B, where Point A and Point B are places anybody actually cares sending data to and from, you've got nothing to sell to communications companies. Comm companies aren't going to pay to establish links to/from Robot Town unless there's a significant market there.
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True, unless you start thinking of large dish arrays or testing of point to point communications (microcells and such)...
Re: @ laird cummings
Yeah, because the best way to hide is to be the only surface dwelling people in an empty town monitored 24/7 by hundreds of underground technicians. Certainly the traffickers would go completely unnoticed.
To be honest, I don't know if I should flame you or feel sorry for you. You should definitely keep to your pretentious, small-minded life and leave real thinking to the big boys
@SavageNation
"JPM that go caught betting and losing 2 Billion dollars to keep BETTING unsuspecting hardworking people's retirement and savings (mutual funds and 401k),"
Investing is betting, PERIOD. You risk your money in hopes that you will have more at the end.
Nice rant and all, but I'm pretty sure you don't really understand economics that well.
That said, YES Facebook is a fools buy, it's an inflated pop stock with no sustainable business model.
Re: How would you save mankind.
How about making the people at the lower end of the spectrum more effective, so that perhaps they can do more than convert O2 into CO2 and pop out sprogs to further drain the economy and the environment?
Every time I see some halfwit "TAX THE RICH" basher like yourself it amazes me that you won't hold everyone else to the same standards of accountability. At least the rich and corporations are producing something other than more unmotivated uneducated consumers of global resources.
With regards to food, the USA currently pays farmers not to farm. Seems rather silly when there is a food shortage, no?
At least the assertion about nuke plants is spot on.
Re: 38 years ?
"38 years ? for goodness sake, does anyone imagine that our politicians will not have destroyed our world and its so-called economy in that timespan ? and even if they haven't, uncontrolled human procreation will probably do the trick very nicely. Get real, everyone ; this culture is doomed."
The problems are one and the same, the politicians subsidizing procreation is ruining the economy and the environment all at once. I see people daily who have 5+ kids just to get the government checks. Stop paying for it, and it will stop happening... at least on this side of the pond.
Re: Short memories
"The EU will never allow it or has The Register forgotten about the Browser choice issue with XP?"
Yeah, I'm sure that in 15 years Microsoft will be found at fault and pay a small fine to the EU to make amends.
Of course, by then the damage will be done and Microsoft's monopoly will be firmly cemented in place again...
Re: Some women should not apply to IT jobs.
Misogynistic?
Are you going to claim that some women don't use their gender to their advantage whenever possible? (Some, not all)
If it is fair to say that some men are sexist pigs (and some are), then it is also fair to say that women (some not all) play to that to get what they want.
Re: people just don't arrest a six-year-old
"Look at it this way, we know beating a dog is an ineffective way of training it so why do you expect it to work any better with a child?"
I challenge you to train EITHER of them if the dog/child doesn't think YOU are the one in charge. If the dog thinks it is in charge, you'll get bitten and if the kid thinks it, you'll get ignored.
Re: The good old days when a quick smak fixed 99% of the se problems.
Yeah, arrest him and put him in juvie because CAGING animals never makes them more violent.
Wait, what? Seems like the whole bit about comparing kids to dogs is kinda silly now, doesn't it?
@Mike Moyle
You've been doing work on iPhones/iPads for over 20 years?
I have a question: where did you park your time machine?
Re: sigh
I said Obama, not democrats. Obama does a lot of things I can support (opposing CISPA for example) but overall I think he has done more harm than good.
Of course, my original post was actually a reply to the first poster. Telling anyone to STFU is pretty childish, so I was simply making his point in reverse back to him.
PS. Not everyone who dislikes Obama liked W.
By the same token, Obama needs to STFU and stick to appearing with Jimmy Fallon. We'd all be better off.
"Microsoft have much more serious competition now - most corporates do not want Linux / Unix desktops - but OS X - why not?"
I think Linux has been heard enough at the upper management level that resistance is eroding. Part of the reservation was the fact that Linux looked a kludge until recently, part was the worry about retraining and reteaching users (new Windows is going to do that anyway), and part of it was uncertainty about reliability and such... Nobody ever got fired for buying Microsoft products.
However, business is now looking hard at every expense, and Linux has been proven time and again on servers and small devices, I would bet with the massive rework that is Win8 and beyond there is a bit of a migration at long last.
Re: @ShelUser
Well, enjoy rebuilding those custom bridges and rewriting those custom scripts when MS arbitrarily changes everything around again in Office2015.
Version stability for corporates was a large part of their success, and I don't think a 3 year upgrade cycle on the OS and all associated software will sit too well in the corporate world. You know, the vast majority of businesses who didn't have a network and infrastructure until they bought a bunch of XP machines and who don't view IT as a moving target...
Like it or not, MS preferred business model is at odds with what most beancounters (and IT bods) want in an OS in that environment.
Re: I will buy more of their Hardcopy because of this decision
"Rules, regulations and technology that can or do interfere with the availability of knowledge are among the most despicable things on earth. The 1% wants the 99% to be an unknowing, unquestioning "Idiocracy" and they cannot be allowed to win. DRM is only one front against the 1% that must be conquered."
I'm pretty sure the 99% had the ability to legally buy and view the ebooks even with the DRM. Perhaps you need to cut back on the Kool-aid?
@Some Beggar
It is rather difficult to do that when a laptop is in the way.
Re: I'm sorry
I dunno about everyone else's reaction, but this singular piece of the market thinks Crytek can pound all their future releases up their collective asses.
Re: Appallingly bad design?
"Unless you're talking about a creative writing assignment, that's a stupid and inefficient use of their time and abilities."
That last part would cover quite a bit of college coursework, actually, and nearly everything from high schools.
@Criminny Rickets
I'm with you. Luckily it seems Mint is a decent replacement for Windows on my non-gaming machines.
Now if only (almost) all games weren't dependent on DirectX I could do away with Windows in my house completely.
Note: Windows in a vm or wine is still windows and still counts as such, in my opinion.
Re: Look forward
"What features does Win8 give you as an office worker that Win7 doesn't?"
For that matter, what features did 7 give me that XP did not?
Since we have <4GB of RAM and no SSD in all our machines, the answer is "nothing but more headaches".
Re: @ShelLuser
"The main difference though is that Win7 also increases where functionality is concerned."
I was actually just ranting today that in our environment 7 is a step BACKWARDS from XP. Sure, it allows for >4GB of RAM and the use of SSD, but we don't use much of that. However, from my perspective it is harder to administer, everything from the more hidden "all users" desktop to the repeated erasing of the default gateway to the fact that you have to set up a printer first as admin before your users can install it to the default IPv6 to the crappy Bing addons needing to be disabled in every profile in the newer craptacular IE to the clunky sign-on screens you get in a domain.
7 is GREAT for home use, but positively sucks compared to XP in our domain. Maybe I'll grow fonder of it in time or if we stopped being a mixed mode XP/7 2k3/2k8 shop or if they bother to send me for some training on it, but in the interim it's been nothing more than a (very pretty) pain in the arse that's inflicted on us my XP's retirement and clueless managerial users who swear that shinier is better (even after Office 2010 beat some of that out of them to the point that they were clamoring for 2003 back).
I'm putting on my asbestos underwear for the incoming flames/downvotes/"yore dooin it RONG" posts.
Re: What could possibly go wrong?
Ironically, the Futurama episode about Robosexuality was just on last night... I thought their take on the religious aspect of it was quite appropriate.
Re: Shame on El Reg
"So, basically you are arguing for Judge Dredd-style in the spot executions, as happened recently in Florida."
Really? Which case was this? The only thing I know of from there is an unresolved self-defense case with no verdict yet that is being used as a political football by wannabe politicians who have nothing to play in their career except the race card.
Re: next steps..
.net would be nice, but I wish they'd open source DirectX!
Never gonna happen, though, because gaming is one area where they have a nice solid stranglehold...
Re: Why have rules - we still get Enron, Bank implosions, and more
And you think that assurance is cheap, or done in house? Who is spewing bollocks now? (hint: it isn't me!)
Re: @ Intractable Potsherd
com·mu·nism
[kom-yuh-niz-uhm]
noun
1.
a theory or system of social organization based on the holding of all property in common, actual ownership being ascribed to the community as a whole or to the state.
2.
(often initial capital letter) a system of social organization in which all economic and social activity is controlled by a totalitarian state dominated by a single and self-perpetuating political party.
Treating private property and funds as assets to be seized and redistributed would certainly fall under the first definition, and our latest foray into picking winners and losers in the market (well, trying to anyway) would surely cover the second definition. Perhaps a better word would have been socialist, but I don't shy from communist when the actions match the word. The very actions of many from our current administration follow those definitions, so I'm going to call it as I see it. The very notion of "equal outcomes" instead of "equal opportunity" is communist in nature.
As far as all the stuff all "good" countries do, it's all well and good until handouts replace jobs and a nanny state replaces personal responsibility. That is already occurring over here, and frankly we need LESS of that sort of thing, not more of it. I'm not saying we need to yank the safety net out from under grandma! Quite the opposite: she paid in her whole life, and that obligation needs to be honored. However, that 22 year old mother of 6 who dropped out of school to have kids knowing full well that she'd be taken care of has GOT to stop, and the only way to stop it is to make people deal with the consequences of their actions. The notion that her neighbor's paycheck partly belongs to her as well is very communistic (see definition 1).
Corporations fail, businesses fail, people fail, students fail. The government needs to get out of the way and let them fail, because without the risk of failure there can be no success. We have a malaise from the top down in this country, and the current schooling is trying to establish it from the bottom up.
Thumbs down back to you, simply because denying reality in the name of political correctness is a sure-fire path to failure.
Re: Nokia are doomed, but Elop could have done something
"That's nonsense, had Nokia taken the Android route, they could i'm sure be pushing out decent, affordable smartphones that are different from the rest."
Nokia IS pushing out smartphones that are different than the rest: no other manufacturer wants to make a phone with WP7!
Re: It's not just about the wages/hours
Does it matter? After 12-20 hour shifts you want to SLEEP, not socialize.
The crewmen of most navies in the world live in more confined spaces than these workers, incidentally, especially submarine crews.
One more point: a climate controlled room with 8 bunks is a LOT better than a mud shanty farmhouse where you get eaten by bugs every night.
Those people go to FoxConn to work and take money home. If FoxConn built them bigger quarters, they would pay them less and the majority of those workers would rather have the money than a bigger room to themselves that sat empty 12 hours a day.
Re: Average Age?
21.5 would be the quotient of 18 and 25, not the mean. Even then, the middle value is more likely to be the median than the mean (though it doesn't have to be).
But hey, why not feign ignorance of basic maths and just make a sterotypical joke instead?
@llewton
Don't blame us as a whole! Our pseudo-communist overlords have taken our educational system from a place that taught facts and critical thinking to a place where everyone gets a gold star and a good brainwashing.
Re: One of the best places to work?
Sssh! Stop it! You're just going to confuse the issue by bringing facts into it!
Re: Why have rules - we still get Enron, Bank implosions, and more
SarbOx compliance has cost investors more money that the scandals that caused it in the first place. The ONLY beneficiaries of it have been the accounting firms.
Another shining example of the effectiveness of government regulation in the financial sector, and why we don't need the government's "help".
Re: Kill all the "Hedgfund shareholders" before they kill what remains of AOL
If AOL and Kodak are your examples of this, then I'd like to point out that both companies were on extended life support after being irrelevant for YEARS before the vultures closed in.
Calling AOL alive made me chuckle too, it's more like a shambling corpse. It's been dead for a while now, the body just hasn't figured it out.
I think it needs to be skinned, gutted, and sold for scrap now while said scrap is still worth something... because in a few more years it will die anyway with a negative value and having chewed up a ton of capital that would have been better invested elsewhere.
Businesses fail, new ones start, that is how the free market works. Of course, judging by your vitriol aimed at the most common socialist scapegoat, I can see that you don't believe in the free market anyway.
Re: Wah?
Most patent exemptions now are based on "prior art" from 20 years ago... so since EVERYTHING is being patented today, what will become of the "prior art" we will need 20 years from now to continue innovating?
Painting ourselves into a corner, and all that. I've been ranting about this very thing for YEARS.
Re: Support will end?
Yeah, but we got the Hamburgler now.
Re: Better stop calling them hoodies!
Really? When did I do that?
In all honesty, the facts in this case are still coming out and (as usual) people have a penchant for overreacting. The fact that this is just one giant race card being slapped down on the table is also not helping anyone.
If the races had been reversed, this never would have made national news (let alone local news) and there certainly wouldn't be marches in the street.
Same-race homicides are an order of magnitude more common in this country, and black on white homicide is consistently higher than white on black (Zimmerman is hispanic, by the way). See the bottom chart:
http://bjs.ojp.usdoj.gov/content/homicide/race.cfm
Where are all the marches for that stuff?
It's a sad state of affairs when some bastards are using this kids death as a means to further their own ends or to line their own pockets... (Jesse Jackson, I'm looking at YOU!)
Better stop calling them hoodies!
Unless you want the libtards and NAACP booking flights to march on El Reg HQ!
http://www.wcnc.com/news/local/Million-Hooded-March-in-Uptown-draws-Hundreds-145014965.html
I started to put a joke alert icon, but then I realized I'm less joking and more embarrassed at the levels of stupid among my countrymen.
Re: Economics
Since the labor pool is vastly larger than the openings at Foxconn, price will not rise because supply heavily outweighs demand for the labor.
As far as the dormitories making the west more competitive, I wouldn't count on it. Even the US minimum wage is nearly double what Foxconn workers make, and the labor pool for minimum wage jobs in the US is less than employable. Those losses would more than make up for the cost of the additional dorms.
On to Vietnam and Africa!!!!
Did you miss the part where they mentioned Foxconn was looking at automation to reign in costs?
PINK SLIPS FOR ALL! HUZZAH!!!
It's a repeat of what happened to manufacturing in the USA. The labor pool got too pricey and those jobs went *poof* in a puff of automation and relocation.
Oh well, I'm sure the impoverished in Vietnam and Africa are looking forward to their new jobs... After all, 60 hours a week in a factory is better than 80+ hours a week in a farm field.
I'm sure the workers who get sent back to 80+ hours a week in the rice paddies will be grateful for all the "help".
It still amuses me that the Foxconn suicides which started this whole mess were still far below the suicide rate in China as a whole. The workers were LESS prone to off themselves than their agrarian bretheren, yet we still insisted on meddling in their lives.
I hope it was worth it when these displaced workers start offing themselves next fall.
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