Obviously!, are you actually for real? Do you actually have the chutzpah to call someone else a troll? You really need a recto-cranial extraction procedure.
Except for the rather inconvenient fact that the Newton was released 4 years prior to the Palm Pilot (the Newton was released in 1993, the Palm Pilot in 1997). The Pilot 1000 didn't have the features mentioned by this patent (released 1996).But hey, it's out thereinks so it must be true now. You win the internets. Medal is in the post.
The not-so-subtle-point I was trying to make is that this is *exactly* what the regular trolls around here accuse anybody that has any positive things to say about Apple of doing with a nasty vitriol. Personly, by what you like, use what works for you; sadly many of the fandroids, and make no mistake these guy *are* smug and arrogant, cannot see beyond their own fanaticism and woe betides any who question their own opinion of exactly how the world should be. The same individuals are beginning to infect site like SO and HN, which is extremely sad...
Smug, arrogant, overtly sensitive about criticism of their favourite OS and will defend their beloved brand to the bitter end? We need a fandroid icon...
One of the more intelligent post I have ever read on these forums. Freedom of speech is an important human right but it is also a responsibility that is all to often abused by the media at large.
My experience with O2 has been the very opposite - awful. I've found that they will try and blame other parties for their own issues and refuse to acknowledge their own failings. They have really stupid protocols too - asking for a user to send their password over email is just plain irresponsible. On top of the the "O2 Wireless Box VI" is a cheap and shitty no-usable-wifi-range-of-any-discernible-kind Thomson SpeedTouch TG587nv2 which has got to be about the worst router on the market. What I'd ultimately like is for the ISP to offer the option of just having a modem or not having a supplied router and to stop lying about connection speeds, or is that really too much to ask for?
Re: a more-compelling reason to upgrade might be the next iPhone's almost-certain LTE capability
With you on the copy/paste, but MMS was and still is a red herring. In the early days one of the biggest selling points was email over all-you-can-eat data plans which wasn't a limited (and still isn't) as MMS. To this day I haven't sent or received MMS on my iPhone and the same is true for my missus who has an HTC Wildfire. Why? Email...
"...because their cult members are unable to think for themselves."
Much like the morons that continually troll Apple related articles just to trot out the same trite rubbish. Still, it keeps you off the street I suppose. I suppose I should've posted this anonymously just to wind you up a bit more...
On topic; why go to a reseller when you can go direct to the manufacturer? In fact, why bother going to the bricks and mortar shop at all when it's far simpler to order on-line?
Re: Re: Re: An eye for an eye until the whole world is blind.
No. Hate on Apple all you want, but lets keep to the facts; Nokia started this. http://www.businessinsider.com/nokia-sues-apple-over-iphone-patent-infringement-2009-10
What about that? Also it's worth noting that the stories generally link the two; Apple kit is made by Foxconn, there has been a suicide/attempt at a Foxconn plant, ergo Apple workers commit suicide because the conditions are abhorrent. Muppets like you start screeching about the evils of the fruit, making false claims and asinine comments (see your post).
To further your point, don't all the openistas bang on about choice? In which case, surely one choice they must accept is closed an proprietary? Or is it, as per usual, a zero sum game?
And yet here you are moaning about them, like on every other article that references Apple. Here is a ground breaking idea; stop reading articles about Apple. Ignore them completely. This will alleviate your malaise. It's not as if you are going to change anyone's opinions here anyway, what with preaching to the peanut gallery and all…
Niether are good. Being a sanctimonious prick about it certainly doesn't make one of them more wrong and neither does the final profit margin. The irony here of course is that Apple seem to be the only one of Foxconn's clients open and honest enough to discuss the workers conditions. Fact of the matter is those that are constantly having a whine about Apple wouldn't be satisfied with any outcome. Next time you're building a computer, only use parts that support your piety. You'll find out 2 things: it's nigh-on impossible to do and will cost an absolute fortune. If you take this approach, I fully applaud you and your effort. Your sanctimony will be fully justified. If you chose to maintain the status quo; shut the actual fuck up.
Truth is, it's a shit state of affairs and it's gonna take more than Apple to help initiate change for the better. The real bad guys here are the hypocrites that chide Apple yet continue to enjoy cheap products.
This http://www4.pcmag.com/media/images/311273-apple-macbook-air-11-inch-thunderbolt.jpg looks like this http://reviews.zdnet.co.uk/i/z/rv/2004/09/vaio-x505-i1.gif? Mate, I think it's you that needs the ocular intervention. This Asus look more like the Air that the Air looks like the Sony. But hey, let's not actual reality get in the way of some good old fashioned Internet bollocks.
by not actually providing the services that they are charging for. 6 months with what can only be described as 56kbps speeds from over selling and not upgrading infrastructure. Useless fuckers.
I distinctly remember getting a text from O2 about this. I remember thinking "Meh, I don't go anywhere that has 'The Cloud' wireless anyway..." Perhaps those complaining sent 'STOP' to 81145 per the bottom of O2UK messages previous to this announcement?
"That was trolling, not criticism. Trust me, I know trolling. :p"
;) The 8 downvotes (as of 17.30) say it all really though! Fandroids really need to lighten up because they are a parody of all that they purport to dislike...
As were it to suggest the opposite Martin, i.e. that the 'research' showed that iOS 5 'crashed fewer apps', I'm sure you'd be making the very same argument about the data.
You point woud be valid were this a general review of smartphones. It's not though. The title of the piece is "Eight... HD camera smartphones" Clues in the title young fella-me-laddo...
One more thing; it's not a telephone. It's a smartphone. That means that it's *more* than a a te-le-phone. It actually the natural successor to the ill-fated PDA, with telephony being a feature and the 'phone' nomenclature coming more from the form factor.
"Yadda, yadda, yadda... Apple are meanies because they won't give out a dividend." There is no legal or moral requirement to give out a share of your profits. If you want a return on Apple shares, sell them. It's not that difficult to grasp. Are you going to have a whine about Dell after their next earnings call because they don't pay out? Any reason to have a whine. Fuck me...
Swing and a miss. Windows 95 *did* have a 'Start' button; it was the first version of Windows where one clicked 'Start' to shut the machine down. In fact the word 'Start' and the ubiquitous button featured prominently in their marketing (see http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AGNGRU5g1aU&feature=related) Windows 1.0 through 3.1 *didn't* have a 'Start' button...
"The only significant difference is that Linux users have a choice" a trite fallacy. What does the choice give them? Not a lot really. It certainly doesn't make the UX any better or worse and it's not trivial to edit the configs or switch between the two, which IMHO renders that particular point moot.
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Re: What about my 3 year old?
As are the same old desperately dull trolls. Plus ça change, eh?
Re: Great Move Reg !
Obviously!, are you actually for real? Do you actually have the chutzpah to call someone else a troll? You really need a recto-cranial extraction procedure.
Except for the rather inconvenient fact that the Newton was released 4 years prior to the Palm Pilot (the Newton was released in 1993, the Palm Pilot in 1997). The Pilot 1000 didn't have the features mentioned by this patent (released 1996).But hey, it's out thereinks so it must be true now. You win the internets. Medal is in the post.
Re: Yawn...
Yes. Microsoft and the OEM's managed to kill them off as a viable option.
Re: Long live the free market
"Will be interesting to see what fanbois..." Where's the black pot icon?
Re: Wow.
The not-so-subtle-point I was trying to make is that this is *exactly* what the regular trolls around here accuse anybody that has any positive things to say about Apple of doing with a nasty vitriol. Personly, by what you like, use what works for you; sadly many of the fandroids, and make no mistake these guy *are* smug and arrogant, cannot see beyond their own fanaticism and woe betides any who question their own opinion of exactly how the world should be. The same individuals are beginning to infect site like SO and HN, which is extremely sad...
Wow.
Smug, arrogant, overtly sensitive about criticism of their favourite OS and will defend their beloved brand to the bitter end? We need a fandroid icon...
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Re: Dazzza
One of the more intelligent post I have ever read on these forums. Freedom of speech is an important human right but it is also a responsibility that is all to often abused by the media at large.
Re: To expensive
My experience with O2 has been the very opposite - awful. I've found that they will try and blame other parties for their own issues and refuse to acknowledge their own failings. They have really stupid protocols too - asking for a user to send their password over email is just plain irresponsible. On top of the the "O2 Wireless Box VI" is a cheap and shitty no-usable-wifi-range-of-any-discernible-kind Thomson SpeedTouch TG587nv2 which has got to be about the worst router on the market. What I'd ultimately like is for the ISP to offer the option of just having a modem or not having a supplied router and to stop lying about connection speeds, or is that really too much to ask for?
Re: My Air, running Lion, has it: Option+up arrow
The whole thing (trackpad) is a button.
Re: @ Mikeyboosh
17" Macbook Pro's don't have built in numpads.
Re: One of the best places to work?
So, where was the device and parts that it consists of made?
Re: queue
"...or am I already too late?" Yes, 2008 wants it's meme back.
Re: a more-compelling reason to upgrade might be the next iPhone's almost-certain LTE capability
With you on the copy/paste, but MMS was and still is a red herring. In the early days one of the biggest selling points was email over all-you-can-eat data plans which wasn't a limited (and still isn't) as MMS. To this day I haven't sent or received MMS on my iPhone and the same is true for my missus who has an HTC Wildfire. Why? Email...
Re: 4G on an iPhone? I can't wait!
Careful, you don't want to upset the Googtards or hardcore fandroids, they make the latter day 'fanbois' look positively rational.
Don't assume malice...
(or marketing for that matter) for what stupidity can explain.
Re: Lemmings all, they are.
Says the poster regurgitating the same old same old about 'fanbois'. Irony?
"...because their cult members are unable to think for themselves."
Much like the morons that continually troll Apple related articles just to trot out the same trite rubbish. Still, it keeps you off the street I suppose. I suppose I should've posted this anonymously just to wind you up a bit more...
On topic; why go to a reseller when you can go direct to the manufacturer? In fact, why bother going to the bricks and mortar shop at all when it's far simpler to order on-line?
Re: "Sounds like he should have just left the Macbook Air on it's default OS."
Why not go the whole hog and pronounce your penis to be bigger than his?
Re: Re: Re: An eye for an eye until the whole world is blind.
No. Hate on Apple all you want, but lets keep to the facts; Nokia started this. http://www.businessinsider.com/nokia-sues-apple-over-iphone-patent-infringement-2009-10
Re: Council estate dwellers
That's because you are paying for it. Sucks, dunnit?
This is going to be fun...
Popcorn anyone?
Re: Re: Re: Who owns the data?
'MAYBE before you flame, you could check Wikipedia...'
Really?
ORLY?
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2012/01/11/foxconn_mass_suicide/
What about that? Also it's worth noting that the stories generally link the two; Apple kit is made by Foxconn, there has been a suicide/attempt at a Foxconn plant, ergo Apple workers commit suicide because the conditions are abhorrent. Muppets like you start screeching about the evils of the fruit, making false claims and asinine comments (see your post).
re @AC18:44
To further your point, don't all the openistas bang on about choice? In which case, surely one choice they must accept is closed an proprietary? Or is it, as per usual, a zero sum game?
Android is winning.
And yet here you are moaning about them, like on every other article that references Apple. Here is a ground breaking idea; stop reading articles about Apple. Ignore them completely. This will alleviate your malaise. It's not as if you are going to change anyone's opinions here anyway, what with preaching to the peanut gallery and all…
Niether are good. Being a sanctimonious prick about it certainly doesn't make one of them more wrong and neither does the final profit margin. The irony here of course is that Apple seem to be the only one of Foxconn's clients open and honest enough to discuss the workers conditions. Fact of the matter is those that are constantly having a whine about Apple wouldn't be satisfied with any outcome. Next time you're building a computer, only use parts that support your piety. You'll find out 2 things: it's nigh-on impossible to do and will cost an absolute fortune. If you take this approach, I fully applaud you and your effort. Your sanctimony will be fully justified. If you chose to maintain the status quo; shut the actual fuck up.
Truth is, it's a shit state of affairs and it's gonna take more than Apple to help initiate change for the better. The real bad guys here are the hypocrites that chide Apple yet continue to enjoy cheap products.
GPL v2
http://www.r-project.org/COPYING
"MS owns a substantial amount of Apples stock."
No. No the don't. They sold it years ago. Nice try though.
Really?
This http://www4.pcmag.com/media/images/311273-apple-macbook-air-11-inch-thunderbolt.jpg looks like this http://reviews.zdnet.co.uk/i/z/rv/2004/09/vaio-x505-i1.gif? Mate, I think it's you that needs the ocular intervention. This Asus look more like the Air that the Air looks like the Sony. But hey, let's not actual reality get in the way of some good old fashioned Internet bollocks.
No it doesn't.
Poppycock. The Air only looks like Vaio X505 in so far as they're both laptops and both have metal parts.
RE: don't forget Palm and Windows Mobile
If you're going to play tha game, let's not forget the Newton. Which was manufactured by...
The did it...
by not actually providing the services that they are charging for. 6 months with what can only be described as 56kbps speeds from over selling and not upgrading infrastructure. Useless fuckers.
Me too.
I distinctly remember getting a text from O2 about this. I remember thinking "Meh, I don't go anywhere that has 'The Cloud' wireless anyway..." Perhaps those complaining sent 'STOP' to 81145 per the bottom of O2UK messages previous to this announcement?
"That was trolling, not criticism. Trust me, I know trolling. :p"
;) The 8 downvotes (as of 17.30) say it all really though! Fandroids really need to lighten up because they are a parody of all that they purport to dislike...
Odd.
As were it to suggest the opposite Martin, i.e. that the 'research' showed that iOS 5 'crashed fewer apps', I'm sure you'd be making the very same argument about the data.
Re AC 'Planning on backin that up...'
And Apple users are fanbois that can't take criticism? You fandroids take the biscuit!
You point woud be valid were this a general review of smartphones. It's not though. The title of the piece is "Eight... HD camera smartphones" Clues in the title young fella-me-laddo...
One more thing; it's not a telephone. It's a smartphone. That means that it's *more* than a a te-le-phone. It actually the natural successor to the ill-fated PDA, with telephony being a feature and the 'phone' nomenclature coming more from the form factor.
@LarsG/Anonymous...
Forgot to take off caps-lock for the title? To distracted by making shit up. You've been caught out for that before...
that's some revisionism...
Woz has had nothing to do with iOS at all.
"Yadda, yadda, yadda... Apple are meanies because they won't give out a dividend." There is no legal or moral requirement to give out a share of your profits. If you want a return on Apple shares, sell them. It's not that difficult to grasp. Are you going to have a whine about Dell after their next earnings call because they don't pay out? Any reason to have a whine. Fuck me...
The only thing worse than any kind of fanboi is a sanctimonious commentard.
I'd rather see Apple integrate XMPP into iOS to be fair.
"...it just works."
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2011/10/10/online_services_fail_for_blackberry/
Don't shoot the, heh heh, messenger!
"...as FUD like this story and this comment prove."
I suppose they were both paid for by Apple too. Barrington, you need some perspective you utterly ridiculous fandroid.
"Windows 95 didn't have a Start button..."
Swing and a miss. Windows 95 *did* have a 'Start' button; it was the first version of Windows where one clicked 'Start' to shut the machine down. In fact the word 'Start' and the ubiquitous button featured prominently in their marketing (see http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AGNGRU5g1aU&feature=related) Windows 1.0 through 3.1 *didn't* have a 'Start' button...
"The only significant difference is that Linux users have a choice" a trite fallacy. What does the choice give them? Not a lot really. It certainly doesn't make the UX any better or worse and it's not trivial to edit the configs or switch between the two, which IMHO renders that particular point moot.
Who the fuck actually cares about this?
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