As far as I can understand, Google doesn't get paid for the use of Android. The assumption is that they then get their money through the use of the Google services that Android provides.
But does this hold true in China? Is Google benefiting from the use of Android in such a market, or has it just shot itself in the foot?
This is all very well but assumes connectivity. I've just returned from the States, and for me connectivity didn't exist. There was no WiFi in the state park I was in, data roaming is an eye watering £9 per MByte and when I looked around Walmart for data sims all I could find was sims that charged $15 per day for 1GB
The operators aren't in a rush to improve matters which makes it dangerous for a traveller to keep stuff in the Cloud. Since one of the selling points of cloudy access is that it allows you to get access to your data wherever you are, the lack of support from operators is a big minus, but of course Gartner, in their rather narrow minded blinkered crystal ball gaze probably haven't taken this into account.
Yup, commented on this before .. the habit of States based authors to assume that the only people worthy of reading their articles are in the good ol' USA.
Pity really. An international mindset would sometimes be sooo welcome.
The date order MDY is fine if you are just an American company. Trouble is, international companies that originate in America (and whose servers reside in America) still use the MDY format. As a company just been taken over by an American, I'm waiting for that big order due on 3/5/2012 to go horribly wrong.
Comparing platforms rather than companies hides the revenue stream. A company needs a revenue stream in order to survive and also to innovate. The revenue stream for IOS devices is clear .. Apple gets all of it. The revenue stream for Android is split between Google (who gets revenue from apps running on Android, not from Android itself) and the phone suppliers (who are a very broad bunch so the revenue stream is watered down).
So if you were to ask "who gets the largest amount of money to pay for development" it would be Apple
The system of Jury trials is that the jury must be convinced, beyond all reasonable doubt, on the basis of the evidence that is presented before them, that the person is guilty. There are a number of things here that guard against arbitrary justice (mob rule, kangaroo courts or the decision of a single person).
Firstly the person must be proven guilty. Not proven innocent but proven guilty. Note that mob justice is often the other way round.
Secondly it is 'beyond reasonable doubt'. If a jury thinks 'he might have done it' then its not good enough to find the person guilty.
Thirdly it is 'on the basis of the evidence'. It is the job of the police and prosecution to gather and present evidence, the job of the defence to test that the evidence is properly gathered and not just made up. It is the job of the jury to listen to what is said and weigh up and make a decision based on what is said.
The system is imperfect. A lot of people who have committed a crime may go free. The lawyer may be rubbish and fail to extract proper witness evidence or highlight significant evidence. The police may fail to gather sufficient evidence. The jury may have a concious or unconcious bias (the accused was ugly/black/gay/a woman/looks like a criminal/done it before). But it's the system we have and it's a damn sight better than the knee jerk justice of mob rule.
I've started to get wise to the fact that Bill Ray is in the States, but having logged into theregister.co.uk I still get a little thrown by these articles which are USA only.
What kindle.com account? I have Kindle on iPad, buy my books to read on that app but as far as i can tell, Amazon will not give me a kindle.com account because I haven't bought their hardware
We've got one of these, bought a year ago. It's OK for what it is, but I do find the user interface slow. This is due to the very nature of the device. It can track movement but it doesn't have the equivalent of the mouse click. What this means is that in order to select anything you have to use a movement (or lack of it) or a particular stance to indicate selection. In order for the system to distinguish between a selection and a 'I just moved my hand accidently into this region' there has to be a time filter (for example .. 'hold your hand over this button for 3 seconds').
It is this filter that makes the user interaction a bit clunky. Perhaps it could be solved by MS providing a 'clicker' that could be used to indicate selection
... a big touch sensitive screen (say 2ft x 3ft) that can be laid flat (or angled slightly). Happy to have a soft keyboard on it. Must have ledges on side to put coffee cup, chocolate bars and screen wipes.
Get the best of both worlds then. Space to layout my work any way I want (I use two screens at the moment) coupled with friendliness of touch and support for hands, fingers (and a nice warm surface when i sleep on it).
Thinking about it, a touch stylus would be a useful accessory when fingers aren't accurate enough.
So let's get this right. Asus have a new product that transforms from a laptop to a tablet and they have decided to call it Transformer Prime?
Hasbro have built up the Transformer franchise so that the words 'Transformer' and 'Prime' (especially when put together) is very likely to evoke images of a 20-30 foot robot. Hasbro have also attempted to build up the 'Hey Cool!' image of this robot, especially among young geeks (who are probably now slightly older geeks with hopefully cash to spare).
Then along comes Asus, selling into the geek 'Hey cool' market using a product name that could help them sell more of the product. Yup, I can see why Hasbro might be a bit cheesed off.
... it's the content creators. As long as there are sites whose content uses FLASH you will have users who will use FLASH enabled browsers.
I don't go to the BBC because they have FLASH on it. I go to the BBC site to get news and information. Unfortunately they like FLASH so I have to have it enabled to get full benefit from the site.
Mind you what I *can* do it email bbc on a regular basis asking them to look at moving to HTML5, but until they decide it's a technology mature enough to use, it won't happen.
Coal may not be as bad as salt, but I can remember when we mined coal in quantity in the UK that British Coal had quite a substantial sum set aside to provide compensation for subsidence. Travelling along the M1 in the North Notts area was a good illustration of coal settlement. All important buildings had to have a pillar of coal left under them to protect them. Ordinary house> .. Sorry, you're not important enough.
The guy annoys me, but he's an evangelist, and they're always annoying if you don't agree with them.
However, the idea that digital handcuffs are evil is misplaced. Anything that ties you in to a particular technology is a handcuff. The fact that i have to run software on a computer is a handcuff of sorts .. if computers disappear what do I run it on then? I'm handcuffed to electricity, I'm handcuffed to networks, I'm handcuffed to the technology that makes our present computer system work.
The handcuff question is more "if this technology disappears, then what will you do". So Apple's handcuffs come down to "if Apple disappeared, what happens to all your Apple protected and apple run content?". That's the handcuff.
What my content runs on is quite frankly irrelevant, as long as it can be moved. so lets have a look at this .. Apple fall down a great big hole tomorrow .. what happens?
a) My music is OK .. it's not protected and can be played elsewhere
b) Video content. The stuff bought off apple is toast (so that's er .. none). The stuff loaded or obtained from other sources is viewable. However, this is a content provider issue, not an apple issue. It's the same issue for any video .. content creators at the moment insist that their content is protected. If Mr Stallman can come up with a platform independent protection system, fine.
c) Books. Yup, my iBooks collection is gone (all one of them). My Kindle collection survives (until Kindle goes to the wall). Again, this is a content creation thing.
d) My documents. If I've created something in an Apple specific format then I've lost it. However, I am not sure how proprietary Apple's formats are and whether documents (notes, docs, spreadsheets, calendars, contact lists) can be translated or imported.
So I feel that talking about digital handcuffs is a bit overblown.
How the heck are you going to run a solar car in Manchester?
Anecdotal evidence is that Manchester is one of the homes of the Rain Gods (the others being the Lake District and Snowdon) .. either that or they go there to shop.
I thought this was a joke until I drove north up the M6 and it started raining as I passed Manchester .. and stopped shortly after.
Raincoat because .. well .. we are talking about Manchester
Spinning the ship on its axis might be a solution, but it is one that needs to be tested. This is because unless you get the design right the occupants can get nauseous .. see "Artificial Gravity and the Architecture of Orbital Habitats" by Theodore W. Hall.
The basic conclusion is that big radius, low RPM=good (for example, one study said that the comfort zone was achieved by 1rpm and 100m radius). The point is made that all our research habitats in space have been designed to test the effects of zero G. There haven't been any studies in space on the use of spinning habitats.
Basically .. most of the spinning ships envisaged in books and films have had too narrow a radius. The 2001 space station probably had it right, but this wasn't going anywhere. And I bet passengers were puking up as the shuttle spun up to enter the station.
You are obviously new here so first of all let me welcome you to the Reg, and secondly bring you up to speed.
Friday is bootnotes day. Friday Bootnotes are not necessarily technical. They may involve BOFH, LOHAN, Playmobil or (oh be still my beating heart) all three.
This is expected. If it doesn't happen then dozens, nay hundreds of beer starved/stuffed commentards will descend on elReg and demand what is theirs by rights.
Agree with the poster ... Intel provides the chips; Windriver provides the OS (either Linux or vxWorks .. probably Linux for an infotainment hub) and MacAfee provides the security expertise.
Said it before, but I think the Reg's playmobil crown has slipped off. The last playmobil I can find is November 2009. Well over a year and I don't really think Paris counts
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How does Google benefit from this?
As far as I can understand, Google doesn't get paid for the use of Android. The assumption is that they then get their money through the use of the Google services that Android provides.
But does this hold true in China? Is Google benefiting from the use of Android in such a market, or has it just shot itself in the foot?
"well-placed anonymous sources"
or "they were at the bar and bought me a drink"
Re: Easy mistake to make
I'll avoid paying the plumber by that method. On the other hand .. next time Sig Other wants to borrow a tenner ...
Re: Hey Arizona!
You BASTARD!!!!
It's going to take DAYS for me to get that tune out me head now.
Cloudy connectivity
This is all very well but assumes connectivity. I've just returned from the States, and for me connectivity didn't exist. There was no WiFi in the state park I was in, data roaming is an eye watering £9 per MByte and when I looked around Walmart for data sims all I could find was sims that charged $15 per day for 1GB
The operators aren't in a rush to improve matters which makes it dangerous for a traveller to keep stuff in the Cloud. Since one of the selling points of cloudy access is that it allows you to get access to your data wherever you are, the lack of support from operators is a big minus, but of course Gartner, in their rather narrow minded blinkered crystal ball gaze probably haven't taken this into account.
Yup, commented on this before .. the habit of States based authors to assume that the only people worthy of reading their articles are in the good ol' USA.
Pity really. An international mindset would sometimes be sooo welcome.
Flying Ferrets
I'm sorry .. my brain got to the phrase "cannot be transmitted aerially between ferrets" and conjured up images of ferrets being thrown at each other.
It must be a Friday.
You've been invited?
hold on .. the BIG news seems to be that ElReg has been invited!!!
Or am I just reading something into this based on loose facts and supposition?
Re: Re: Harper's trusted messenger
The French army is probably free if you are interested.
It's worse than that
The date order MDY is fine if you are just an American company. Trouble is, international companies that originate in America (and whose servers reside in America) still use the MDY format. As a company just been taken over by an American, I'm waiting for that big order due on 3/5/2012 to go horribly wrong.
Revenue Streams
Comparing platforms rather than companies hides the revenue stream. A company needs a revenue stream in order to survive and also to innovate. The revenue stream for IOS devices is clear .. Apple gets all of it. The revenue stream for Android is split between Google (who gets revenue from apps running on Android, not from Android itself) and the phone suppliers (who are a very broad bunch so the revenue stream is watered down).
So if you were to ask "who gets the largest amount of money to pay for development" it would be Apple
@Martijn Bakker
The system of Jury trials is that the jury must be convinced, beyond all reasonable doubt, on the basis of the evidence that is presented before them, that the person is guilty. There are a number of things here that guard against arbitrary justice (mob rule, kangaroo courts or the decision of a single person).
Firstly the person must be proven guilty. Not proven innocent but proven guilty. Note that mob justice is often the other way round.
Secondly it is 'beyond reasonable doubt'. If a jury thinks 'he might have done it' then its not good enough to find the person guilty.
Thirdly it is 'on the basis of the evidence'. It is the job of the police and prosecution to gather and present evidence, the job of the defence to test that the evidence is properly gathered and not just made up. It is the job of the jury to listen to what is said and weigh up and make a decision based on what is said.
The system is imperfect. A lot of people who have committed a crime may go free. The lawyer may be rubbish and fail to extract proper witness evidence or highlight significant evidence. The police may fail to gather sufficient evidence. The jury may have a concious or unconcious bias (the accused was ugly/black/gay/a woman/looks like a criminal/done it before). But it's the system we have and it's a damn sight better than the knee jerk justice of mob rule.
Major Space power?
"The participation of the world’s major space power is probably more important than Australia’s endorsement"
So that's Russia then?
Just to be accurate. This is where time is expressed using a 32 bit signed integer representing the number of seconds since Jan 1st 1970.
I note that the OS I use (vxWorks) now declares this as an unsigned integer, thereby putting off the evil day until 2106
I've started to get wise to the fact that Bill Ray is in the States, but having logged into theregister.co.uk I still get a little thrown by these articles which are USA only.
Kindle.com account
What kindle.com account? I have Kindle on iPad, buy my books to read on that app but as far as i can tell, Amazon will not give me a kindle.com account because I haven't bought their hardware
I know i'm being picky but ..
I think I'll wait until Windows 8 comes out before I compliment MS on anything. But it's nice of Dell to consider complementary hardware.Kinect Klick
We've got one of these, bought a year ago. It's OK for what it is, but I do find the user interface slow. This is due to the very nature of the device. It can track movement but it doesn't have the equivalent of the mouse click. What this means is that in order to select anything you have to use a movement (or lack of it) or a particular stance to indicate selection. In order for the system to distinguish between a selection and a 'I just moved my hand accidently into this region' there has to be a time filter (for example .. 'hold your hand over this button for 3 seconds'). It is this filter that makes the user interaction a bit clunky. Perhaps it could be solved by MS providing a 'clicker' that could be used to indicate selectionCan I have..
... a big touch sensitive screen (say 2ft x 3ft) that can be laid flat (or angled slightly). Happy to have a soft keyboard on it. Must have ledges on side to put coffee cup, chocolate bars and screen wipes.
Get the best of both worlds then. Space to layout my work any way I want (I use two screens at the moment) coupled with friendliness of touch and support for hands, fingers (and a nice warm surface when i sleep on it).
Thinking about it, a touch stylus would be a useful accessory when fingers aren't accurate enough.
So what you are saying is ...
the Silurians will survive?
I for one (etc etc)
Transformer Prime
So let's get this right. Asus have a new product that transforms from a laptop to a tablet and they have decided to call it Transformer Prime?
Hasbro have built up the Transformer franchise so that the words 'Transformer' and 'Prime' (especially when put together) is very likely to evoke images of a 20-30 foot robot. Hasbro have also attempted to build up the 'Hey Cool!' image of this robot, especially among young geeks (who are probably now slightly older geeks with hopefully cash to spare).
Then along comes Asus, selling into the geek 'Hey cool' market using a product name that could help them sell more of the product. Yup, I can see why Hasbro might be a bit cheesed off.
Flood
Probably designed to eliminate all food sources if the flood escape.
Yes .. the question is .. will it exceed the 34Km figure or will it just be spread over 34 sq km?
What??
"and cover it with a variety of toppings, including spray cheese, Sriracha, peanut butter, maple syrup, and chocolate sauce."
All of them?
What does this do to your taste buds, let alone your digestive system and arteries?
El Reg is a recreational site? But it's full of articles, opinions and comments. All carefully thought out. Especially the comments.
The problem is not the users ...
... it's the content creators. As long as there are sites whose content uses FLASH you will have users who will use FLASH enabled browsers.
I don't go to the BBC because they have FLASH on it. I go to the BBC site to get news and information. Unfortunately they like FLASH so I have to have it enabled to get full benefit from the site.
Mind you what I *can* do it email bbc on a regular basis asking them to look at moving to HTML5, but until they decide it's a technology mature enough to use, it won't happen.
Crossed legs
Ye gods .. can the Reg stop publishing these articles? I have a good imagination and right now it's going "Noooooooooooo!!!"
(Looking for the crossed legs icon)
Sorry Gordon
The first nuke is reserved for Slough
http://www-cdr.stanford.edu/intuition/Slough.html
'Personal Docking options'
How do you clean tomato soup off a keyboard??
I look in the mirror every morning and think
"God, I look like an alien"
Coal may not be as bad as salt, but I can remember when we mined coal in quantity in the UK that British Coal had quite a substantial sum set aside to provide compensation for subsidence. Travelling along the M1 in the North Notts area was a good illustration of coal settlement. All important buildings had to have a pillar of coal left under them to protect them. Ordinary house> .. Sorry, you're not important enough.
If there was radiation about, probably, but there is other stuff on board that isn't hardened against radiation.
Like the humans.
Handcuffs?
The guy annoys me, but he's an evangelist, and they're always annoying if you don't agree with them.
However, the idea that digital handcuffs are evil is misplaced. Anything that ties you in to a particular technology is a handcuff. The fact that i have to run software on a computer is a handcuff of sorts .. if computers disappear what do I run it on then? I'm handcuffed to electricity, I'm handcuffed to networks, I'm handcuffed to the technology that makes our present computer system work.
The handcuff question is more "if this technology disappears, then what will you do". So Apple's handcuffs come down to "if Apple disappeared, what happens to all your Apple protected and apple run content?". That's the handcuff.
What my content runs on is quite frankly irrelevant, as long as it can be moved. so lets have a look at this .. Apple fall down a great big hole tomorrow .. what happens?
a) My music is OK .. it's not protected and can be played elsewhere
b) Video content. The stuff bought off apple is toast (so that's er .. none). The stuff loaded or obtained from other sources is viewable. However, this is a content provider issue, not an apple issue. It's the same issue for any video .. content creators at the moment insist that their content is protected. If Mr Stallman can come up with a platform independent protection system, fine.
c) Books. Yup, my iBooks collection is gone (all one of them). My Kindle collection survives (until Kindle goes to the wall). Again, this is a content creation thing.
d) My documents. If I've created something in an Apple specific format then I've lost it. However, I am not sure how proprietary Apple's formats are and whether documents (notes, docs, spreadsheets, calendars, contact lists) can be translated or imported.
So I feel that talking about digital handcuffs is a bit overblown.
OMG!
He has a car with a black hole in it?
museum piece
I agree... we should keep at least one just in case the apes take over
Well, whatever passes the time, stu, but was the sheep consensual to the act?
Manchester
How the heck are you going to run a solar car in Manchester?
Anecdotal evidence is that Manchester is one of the homes of the Rain Gods (the others being the Lake District and Snowdon) .. either that or they go there to shop.
I thought this was a joke until I drove north up the M6 and it started raining as I passed Manchester .. and stopped shortly after.
Raincoat because .. well .. we are talking about Manchester
Education
Well, I must admit i had no idea what MILF was but ... google is your friend and ...
oh
Oh well. you learn something new every day.
Dammit. I listened to Pink Floyd when i was a kid but missed out on the dope fiend bit.
Anyone got a Tardis?
I was tempted to downvote this post because it was intelligent, concise and most of all, positive. ElReg comentators have certain standards you know!
Spinning on axis needs to be tested
Spinning the ship on its axis might be a solution, but it is one that needs to be tested. This is because unless you get the design right the occupants can get nauseous .. see "Artificial Gravity and the Architecture of Orbital Habitats" by Theodore W. Hall.
The basic conclusion is that big radius, low RPM=good (for example, one study said that the comfort zone was achieved by 1rpm and 100m radius). The point is made that all our research habitats in space have been designed to test the effects of zero G. There haven't been any studies in space on the use of spinning habitats.
Basically .. most of the spinning ships envisaged in books and films have had too narrow a radius. The 2001 space station probably had it right, but this wasn't going anywhere. And I bet passengers were puking up as the shuttle spun up to enter the station.
You sir, owe me a new keyboard
I want Lester's job
Not only does he get to write about dumped hedgehogs, but he gets to do it from Spain (I assume that's why the google maps link was spanish related)
all four? everything in moderation, dear man, everything in moderation
Dear andy
You are obviously new here so first of all let me welcome you to the Reg, and secondly bring you up to speed.
Friday is bootnotes day. Friday Bootnotes are not necessarily technical. They may involve BOFH, LOHAN, Playmobil or (oh be still my beating heart) all three.
This is expected. If it doesn't happen then dozens, nay hundreds of beer starved/stuffed commentards will descend on elReg and demand what is theirs by rights.
Clear now?
@Lester
I grovel and humbly apologise. I had not seen that one, probably had disappeared from the front page when i went for my daily fix.
In mitigation the link to the playmobil page doesn't include a link to that article
And I'm not an iPad user; unfortunately my company deems the site you use to host your videos as NSFW.
Ownership
Agree with the poster ... Intel provides the chips; Windriver provides the OS (either Linux or vxWorks .. probably Linux for an infotainment hub) and MacAfee provides the security expertise.
And they all keep it in the same family
playmobil
Said it before, but I think the Reg's playmobil crown has slipped off. The last playmobil I can find is November 2009. Well over a year and I don't really think Paris counts
Apollo 18
Where are the shots of the Apollo 18 landing? Or the Russian one given it was within Lunar Rover driving distance?
I suspect a cover up.
No Playmobil
Regrettably I think the person who did the playmobil must have left. The last playmobil I saw was mounted on PARIS last year
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