They were talking of this in house over 10 years ago, to no avail. I was looking forward to trying for one of those posts. I am glad I did not hold my breath then.
BT have no control over OFCOM, the boot is on the other foot. I used to work in network & switch configuration ( datamanagement in BT speak ) and the problems we had with the then new Other Licensed Operators ( OLO's ) was terrible. One old example. I provided a new digital route to the then Mercury. This included C7 signalling & multiple 2mb 30 channel systems. It was enlarged, using precious scarce hardeware on this large BT trunk switch. All this sat there for several years and was never used. It was eventually recovered.
In a similar vein an OLO asked for us to cease some 2mb systems. These carried the C7 signaling links. We refused, and told them why! They got OFTEL to order us to do it. We did, they screamed, we told them so, still they screamed until OFTEL ordered us to restore it.
Whatever an OLO wanted, however stupid it was, they got it! We could do nothing right, they could do nothing wrong. What a palaver.
John Brunner said it all in the Shockwave Rider. The US government gave large corporations imminity from being sued no matter what they did, ( maximum national advantage he called it ), they could steal anything.
Big Pharma needs the money. Using phages for an antibiotic is not a new idea. They do however tend to be rather specific. So there has to be a twist about using phages to enable patents to be obtained and therefore the money.
Read some of Larry Niven's SF. Safeties on batteries ( super ) can be circumvented to turn them into grenades/bombs. Let's just wait & see. The future awaits us!
Does anyone remember the comic 2000 AD. Judge Dred, and the seriously fat bastards, c/w belly wheel fighting each other, or eating competitions with each other, in the arena. Now those were the sort of buggers that perhaps the car designers of today will need to be preparing for.
Lots of pairs in them thar cables. Around towns/cities there may be 2000 pair cables, I've seen them, ruddy big mothers an all. There are of course smaller ones and older ones. I have seen some national telephone company cables over 40 years ago, 15 pair, paper insulation and covered in lead, the de-facto standard till the 60's, usually.
Big brother is listening, it's built into the phone net!!!
It's a good bit of kit. I bought a 3Tb one from my local maplins. There is a problem though, should you use M$ backup, ( I have Win7 Ult ) it will fail at the last minute with an error message. It is something to do with large sectors I think. I did look into it but it seemed a bit involved & would probably need a reformat.
The drive does come with software installed, Memeo Sync, Share & send but I dont use them. What's useful is the instant backup, this works well, but it seems just to back up the profile you are logged into. What I really wanted was to completely backup the entire pc ( 6 profiles/logins ) in 1 go, but hey it does backup all my files etc but no Win immage.
Unfettered access to the UK telephone network has been available to the spooks for a long while now. I cant see how the same access is available from the mobile operators. I would reckon it would be a condition of the operators license.
Mr Harvey in the 50's-60's the Post Office research station was at dollis hill London. In the 70's I considered transfering to martlesham which had not long opened.
There is no secret ballot, every ticket is marked with your ID before it is handed to you. A quick check by the appropriate authorities afterward will show how you or anybody else voted. QED.
Back a while when La Vache a Fer, ( maggie ) to most of you, took power a mole in the tax office passed a letter, to the tax inspectors from the government, to leave our friends alone ( the big boys in the city ) and go after the little people instead.
I dont think there has been any change in policy for the last 25+ years do you???
After the 6310 no Nokia mob appealed to me, oh sorry the 8800's toughness seemed good, but the price!!! Jewelry.
I've been watching other manufacturers catch up & overtake them, yet all I wanted was phone, text & camera ( 5 - 8 mb ) oh and of course style that appeals to me. My 7610 & 6310 were brilliant.
I am on O2 but my local cell is Orange. Over 2 years ago I needed a new sim, it was a 3G one. Next thing I know most calls in or out were failing.
Made a fuss over a long time with O2 and the advice was revert to 2G. This was ok for me but what about all the people here, north Cambridge, wanting to use 3G.
I want a phone. I want to text. I want to take 5Mb pictures at least. Oh yes I like touchscreens.
I currently back up to external memory then to my PC. For net & e-mail I use a PC. Anything else is a waste, I don't use it. Specifically I do not use the net or e-mail.
Where I live, a block of flats, there is an orange cell on the roof, great signal strength. However since 2007 - 8 I could not get service on 3G. My old sim died in Malta and the new replacement sim was 3G. Anywhere in europe 3G worked fine except at home. Incomimg calls failed and went to voicemail and my greatest No of call setup failures was about 50. I sent back 3 LG viewty's and an LG750. I now have a Renoir 910.
O2 my provider were useless. I eventually had to make ongoing multiple fusses on their web site, contact us, before anyone eventually contacted me.
I never managed to talk to a techie but the woman I eventually spoke to suggested that I revert to 2G as I did not use 3G. Not easy to find on a 910, but eventually Success!!! but every time I tried 3G no go.
I have spoken to other people round here who have 3G trouble telling them to try 2G. I am again now trying 3G again. We shall see!
I stay with O2 because I have a staff contract going back to BT Cellnet.
Beware of them changing your license driving rights!
Send your license off to change your address and you might receive back a HGV qualification when you only ride a moped. Conversely you could be a police biker yet according to them you aint when your license returns.
Motorcycle news (MCN) has been banging on about this random category shift for a long time. No you never had that category on your license. Photocopies will not suffice. Do not send off your old license ( I've lost it!!! ) but compare it to your old one then give them earache. What ever you do keep your old un or you will be really screwed, and a new test will be required.
police employees have been screwed like this even when say a police inspector has checked the employee/mechanic is licensed to drive/test the vehicles he maintains/repairs. DVLA of course effectively called the copper a liar.
Maggies mob set up these agencies but tory Tony just kept them going. He kept most of the Tory crap policies in place I considered him Tory Tony!
Gordon changed nothing, the labour mob are just a wet bunch of tories with the same policies.
To name a few, NHS internal market, no change, selling off school playing fields, no change, the DVLA no change, as seen above. Of course their LYING manifesto's, pre elections promised the earth, especially to stop the above mentioned policies.
As we know politicians are a bunch of professional liars & thieves. Cest la Vie!!!
I had massive ammounts of trouble on O2. Call set up failures, 50 tries for an o/g call, missing lots of i/c calls. I kept taking phones back, no dice, I swapped phones, same result!
I ended up making a nuisance of myself on line and on O2's website. I was e-mailed a tel no from O2.
My problem was I had an old 2G sim that went tit up. A new 3G sim was sent to me, then the trouble started. With the O2 tel no the person suggested I revert the phone to 2G. It worked fine.
My trouble was only at home, anywhere in the UK or europe 100% ok. Anyway I don't use 3G services so all was fine. This was sorted 18 months ago.
However talking to a lad this week, where I live, he and his mates, on O2, were still haveing missed calls etc. I told him the solurion.
This problem is now at least 2 years old O2, will it ever be sorted?????
Way back an idea was punted within BT to recruit techies from in house so as to cast a jaundiced but knowlegable eye over whatever the sales force was trying to sell.
Would it actually work? Would it be too costly to BT to implement versus the income from the contract. Could it be done easier & cheaper?
Of course it was squashed, too good an idea and very scary for the salesmen!!!!
Google for John Stalker. You couldn't have a more innocent person ( police ACC I beleive ). However certain parts of maggies mob needed him to be found guilty, so he was.
I am a BT pensioner, I joined as a civil servant yonks ago, got pissed off with management, got EVR & took my pension.
I do agree with a lot of what you say. The waste of talent in house, many get fed up & leave. I was dealing with OLO's interconnections at times. You think BT was bad the OLO's could be amazingly awful.
You know the story, cease some 2mb circuits that carry all the interconnect C7 signalling, if we refuse they cry to Ofcom. We then cut them off, they cry to Ofcom! We told you so makes no diference.
I did 13 years on Data Management/Exchange Configuration and there were major interconnect routes that I provided for an OLO, enlarged, left for years but never used but finally recovered. A massive waste of resources.
Levi's used this same method to stop supermarkets selling their product here cheap. They used the competition rules to block grey imports from abroad. I wont buy them!
You want to force up prices, fine, I wont buy your product ever.
I bought a Medion quad core Pc a year ago. It has one major big thing going for it UAC. I have 2 boys, 10 & 15, they wouild install everything. UAC stops them cold, I retain control, they dont know my master password.
Yes Vista can be a pain but I dont know if I want to upgrade to 7, this is an OEM setup and I wouldnt mind a proper copy like I had XP on my old pc. Anyone done the upgrade this way, any problems?
I have 2x1Tb HDD fitted plenty of space to play.
You want to be a telco in the uk then you have to give big brother access!
The ( dont) care in the community was originally a Tory policy Nu labour just ran with it. Closing the mental hopsitals, likewise. They were turning all these imposing ex country mansions into mostly country clubs starting the late 80's.
Last year I bought a quad core 3gb 1tb Medion with vista, uhg. I was researching downgrading to XP. I had a copy of xp pro on my old pc AMD XP2400 Athlon. I found the vista useful for controling the installs done on my pc's by my boys, I get to preview all.
At the ex's home where the boys live my old xp pc is grinding to a halt. There was some nasties found on it but not too much. She uses a mobile dongle for the net, doesn't work very well, always dropping out.
Having 2 boys 10 & 15 I have found that UAC is definitely worthwhile.
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Again???
They were talking of this in house over 10 years ago, to no avail. I was looking forward to trying for one of those posts. I am glad I did not hold my breath then.
Liquid Metal
Wasn't the last terminator made from liquid metal?
Re: More BT BS.
Snake oil & salesmen comes to mind.
Re: BT scum
BT have no control over OFCOM, the boot is on the other foot. I used to work in network & switch configuration ( datamanagement in BT speak ) and the problems we had with the then new Other Licensed Operators ( OLO's ) was terrible. One old example. I provided a new digital route to the then Mercury. This included C7 signalling & multiple 2mb 30 channel systems. It was enlarged, using precious scarce hardeware on this large BT trunk switch. All this sat there for several years and was never used. It was eventually recovered.
In a similar vein an OLO asked for us to cease some 2mb systems. These carried the C7 signaling links. We refused, and told them why! They got OFTEL to order us to do it. We did, they screamed, we told them so, still they screamed until OFTEL ordered us to restore it.
Whatever an OLO wanted, however stupid it was, they got it! We could do nothing right, they could do nothing wrong. What a palaver.
Politician tellint the Truth
I know who I would rather believe and it's not the politician. I consider them professional liars!
Avantage Intel
John Brunner said it all in the Shockwave Rider. The US government gave large corporations imminity from being sued no matter what they did, ( maximum national advantage he called it ), they could steal anything.
Old Book Worth a Read
The Moon is a Harsh Mistress, Robert Anson Heinlein, is well worth a read. Let them throw rocks!,
What a good idea.
It's the Money
Big Pharma needs the money. Using phages for an antibiotic is not a new idea. They do however tend to be rather specific. So there has to be a twist about using phages to enable patents to be obtained and therefore the money.
IDIOTS!
I have often seen them referred to as p**t navs because so many p**ts use them.
Three words
It is triple. Rama came in threes ( A. C. Clark ).
BOOM
Read some of Larry Niven's SF. Safeties on batteries ( super ) can be circumvented to turn them into grenades/bombs. Let's just wait & see. The future awaits us!
SERIOUSLY FAT BASTARDS
Does anyone remember the comic 2000 AD. Judge Dred, and the seriously fat bastards, c/w belly wheel fighting each other, or eating competitions with each other, in the arena. Now those were the sort of buggers that perhaps the car designers of today will need to be preparing for.
DONT NEED THE FEATURES
Got a full copy of Office 2003 and I dont use most of that. I have no need for any upgrade so there!!!
mega pairs
Lots of pairs in them thar cables. Around towns/cities there may be 2000 pair cables, I've seen them, ruddy big mothers an all. There are of course smaller ones and older ones. I have seen some national telephone company cables over 40 years ago, 15 pair, paper insulation and covered in lead, the de-facto standard till the 60's, usually.
Big brother is listening, it's built into the phone net!!!
GoFlex
It's a good bit of kit. I bought a 3Tb one from my local maplins. There is a problem though, should you use M$ backup, ( I have Win7 Ult ) it will fail at the last minute with an error message. It is something to do with large sectors I think. I did look into it but it seemed a bit involved & would probably need a reformat.
The drive does come with software installed, Memeo Sync, Share & send but I dont use them. What's useful is the instant backup, this works well, but it seems just to back up the profile you are logged into. What I really wanted was to completely backup the entire pc ( 6 profiles/logins ) in 1 go, but hey it does backup all my files etc but no Win immage.
Old News
Unfettered access to the UK telephone network has been available to the spooks for a long while now. I cant see how the same access is available from the mobile operators. I would reckon it would be a condition of the operators license.
Turing?
The poles first cracked the enigma. Turing did do a lot. He mechanised the cracking with the Bombe.
1 Mistake
Mr Harvey in the 50's-60's the Post Office research station was at dollis hill London. In the 70's I considered transfering to martlesham which had not long opened.
The Third Spy
People don't forget the third spy, the lady in grey. I read Mad from the 60's to the 80's, don martin was my favourite.
Does anyone remember Captain Kook & Mr Spook of the good ship Booby Prize. Just 60, I still remember..
The ICO is!
Seeme to me to be just some jobs for the boys. Nice little numbers for the great, good & ignorant. You expect me to do my job? Get real!!!
secret ballot at elections
There is no secret ballot, every ticket is marked with your ID before it is handed to you. A quick check by the appropriate authorities afterward will show how you or anybody else voted. QED.
only go for the little person
Back a while when La Vache a Fer, ( maggie ) to most of you, took power a mole in the tax office passed a letter, to the tax inspectors from the government, to leave our friends alone ( the big boys in the city ) and go after the little people instead.
I dont think there has been any change in policy for the last 25+ years do you???
RIP Nokia
After the 6310 no Nokia mob appealed to me, oh sorry the 8800's toughness seemed good, but the price!!! Jewelry.
I've been watching other manufacturers catch up & overtake them, yet all I wanted was phone, text & camera ( 5 - 8 mb ) oh and of course style that appeals to me. My 7610 & 6310 were brilliant.
By by Nokia.
Translating Joe Biden v2.0
We used to call them banana republics because so many were in central/south america.
Low IQ's
What are these people? What are they paid??? The obvious answer is monkeys & peanuts.
Botty Burps
Where you may be let your wind go free, church or chapel let it rattle was a pet rhyme of my ex. She came from the fens oooh arrr.
Careful it is natural gas, and it can be lit. A backfire is a hospital job!!!
When one oligopoly screws another.
So whats new? It sure happens here in the UK, check Apple's prices just for one example.
Bent Machines
What a suprise!!!
No 3G
I am on O2 but my local cell is Orange. Over 2 years ago I needed a new sim, it was a 3G one. Next thing I know most calls in or out were failing.
Made a fuss over a long time with O2 and the advice was revert to 2G. This was ok for me but what about all the people here, north Cambridge, wanting to use 3G.
Wonderful service NOT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
No 3G
Where I live 3G has not worked for at least 3 years. To get service I uase 2G settings.
I had been making a fuss for some 3 - 4 years now to O2. It's still not fixed!
What I Want
I want a phone. I want to text. I want to take 5Mb pictures at least. Oh yes I like touchscreens.
I currently back up to external memory then to my PC. For net & e-mail I use a PC. Anything else is a waste, I don't use it. Specifically I do not use the net or e-mail.
Where I live, a block of flats, there is an orange cell on the roof, great signal strength. However since 2007 - 8 I could not get service on 3G. My old sim died in Malta and the new replacement sim was 3G. Anywhere in europe 3G worked fine except at home. Incomimg calls failed and went to voicemail and my greatest No of call setup failures was about 50. I sent back 3 LG viewty's and an LG750. I now have a Renoir 910.
O2 my provider were useless. I eventually had to make ongoing multiple fusses on their web site, contact us, before anyone eventually contacted me.
I never managed to talk to a techie but the woman I eventually spoke to suggested that I revert to 2G as I did not use 3G. Not easy to find on a 910, but eventually Success!!! but every time I tried 3G no go.
I have spoken to other people round here who have 3G trouble telling them to try 2G. I am again now trying 3G again. We shall see!
I stay with O2 because I have a staff contract going back to BT Cellnet.
Nice Idea
If this is kosher I like it.
Certainly in the past the religious right controled s/w companies developing filtering s/w.
Of course their block lists were not available for perusal.
I think fundamentalism, religious or political, the most dangerous of ideas.
Watch your License
Beware of them changing your license driving rights!
Send your license off to change your address and you might receive back a HGV qualification when you only ride a moped. Conversely you could be a police biker yet according to them you aint when your license returns.
Motorcycle news (MCN) has been banging on about this random category shift for a long time. No you never had that category on your license. Photocopies will not suffice. Do not send off your old license ( I've lost it!!! ) but compare it to your old one then give them earache. What ever you do keep your old un or you will be really screwed, and a new test will be required.
police employees have been screwed like this even when say a police inspector has checked the employee/mechanic is licensed to drive/test the vehicles he maintains/repairs. DVLA of course effectively called the copper a liar.
Agencies & Labour
Maggies mob set up these agencies but tory Tony just kept them going. He kept most of the Tory crap policies in place I considered him Tory Tony!
Gordon changed nothing, the labour mob are just a wet bunch of tories with the same policies.
To name a few, NHS internal market, no change, selling off school playing fields, no change, the DVLA no change, as seen above. Of course their LYING manifesto's, pre elections promised the earth, especially to stop the above mentioned policies.
As we know politicians are a bunch of professional liars & thieves. Cest la Vie!!!
Exploring hot clefts 2
And it's wet!
Dab Crap
When it comes to reading about the sales, quality etc of dab radio the last people I would listen to is the idiot PR's waffle.
I am far more inclines to listen to people who use it, tried to use it.
Nothing like a cheap fix eh?
Poor Service on 3G
I had massive ammounts of trouble on O2. Call set up failures, 50 tries for an o/g call, missing lots of i/c calls. I kept taking phones back, no dice, I swapped phones, same result!
I ended up making a nuisance of myself on line and on O2's website. I was e-mailed a tel no from O2.
My problem was I had an old 2G sim that went tit up. A new 3G sim was sent to me, then the trouble started. With the O2 tel no the person suggested I revert the phone to 2G. It worked fine.
My trouble was only at home, anywhere in the UK or europe 100% ok. Anyway I don't use 3G services so all was fine. This was sorted 18 months ago.
However talking to a lad this week, where I live, he and his mates, on O2, were still haveing missed calls etc. I told him the solurion.
This problem is now at least 2 years old O2, will it ever be sorted?????
Dnt tell them!!!
Negative criticism is a big no no in BT. You are right but so what. The truth was always kept from higher management.
Salesmen
Way back an idea was punted within BT to recruit techies from in house so as to cast a jaundiced but knowlegable eye over whatever the sales force was trying to sell.
Would it actually work? Would it be too costly to BT to implement versus the income from the contract. Could it be done easier & cheaper?
Of course it was squashed, too good an idea and very scary for the salesmen!!!!
The Innocent are Guilty
Google for John Stalker. You couldn't have a more innocent person ( police ACC I beleive ). However certain parts of maggies mob needed him to be found guilty, so he was.
What do you Expect
Surely now just about anyone's definition of a politician is;
"A Professional Liar & Cheat"
Watch Out
Is this the precursor to skynet?????
More likely is is being designed to be able to cope with the up & coming m$ bloatware ( next gen ).
Dumb & Dumber
Should have happened years ago! As usual no political will ( ignorance ).
Got It
I am a BT pensioner, I joined as a civil servant yonks ago, got pissed off with management, got EVR & took my pension.
I do agree with a lot of what you say. The waste of talent in house, many get fed up & leave. I was dealing with OLO's interconnections at times. You think BT was bad the OLO's could be amazingly awful.
You know the story, cease some 2mb circuits that carry all the interconnect C7 signalling, if we refuse they cry to Ofcom. We then cut them off, they cry to Ofcom! We told you so makes no diference.
I did 13 years on Data Management/Exchange Configuration and there were major interconnect routes that I provided for an OLO, enlarged, left for years but never used but finally recovered. A massive waste of resources.
Levi's Too
Levi's used this same method to stop supermarkets selling their product here cheap. They used the competition rules to block grey imports from abroad. I wont buy them!
You want to force up prices, fine, I wont buy your product ever.
Nice
I bought a Medion quad core Pc a year ago. It has one major big thing going for it UAC. I have 2 boys, 10 & 15, they wouild install everything. UAC stops them cold, I retain control, they dont know my master password.
Yes Vista can be a pain but I dont know if I want to upgrade to 7, this is an OEM setup and I wouldnt mind a proper copy like I had XP on my old pc. Anyone done the upgrade this way, any problems?
I have 2x1Tb HDD fitted plenty of space to play.
You want to be a telco in the uk then you have to give big brother access!
RE:RE: correction
The ( dont) care in the community was originally a Tory policy Nu labour just ran with it. Closing the mental hopsitals, likewise. They were turning all these imposing ex country mansions into mostly country clubs starting the late 80's.
Never ever trust a politician!!!
Fundamentalists Bah!!!
Religion has been the major cause of wars over millenia. Of course it is the fundamentalists doing. They are dangerous people.
useful vista!!!
Last year I bought a quad core 3gb 1tb Medion with vista, uhg. I was researching downgrading to XP. I had a copy of xp pro on my old pc AMD XP2400 Athlon. I found the vista useful for controling the installs done on my pc's by my boys, I get to preview all.
At the ex's home where the boys live my old xp pc is grinding to a halt. There was some nasties found on it but not too much. She uses a mobile dongle for the net, doesn't work very well, always dropping out.
Having 2 boys 10 & 15 I have found that UAC is definitely worthwhile.
Innocent
To those who keep saying "if you are innocent you have nothing to fear" I just say John Stalker.
Although innocent he was screwed by the security services for their own reasons.
Just google the name!
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