It's actually a really positive review. I went to the second page assuming that'd be where all the downsides were, but that didn't happen.
Having used (very sceptically to start with) a WP7 device for a year now, I'd say:
1GHz single core is enough for the phone. Anything more is a bonus. It runs very fast. You're just used to Android needing multiple cores to make up for garbage collection causing UI stutter.
16GB is a lot. No MicroSD is a bit annoying, but for a lot of people (e.g. me) it's not a showstopper. I get by fine with 8GB at the moment. YMMV. @Silverburn obviously EITHER only 16GB of storage OR no MicroSD is the feature fail, you can't list them as two problems.
Almost every app I need (or have heard of on another platform and wanted) is either there or built into the OS.
I've NEVER had to powercycle/remove the battery on my phone from a crash. Not once, in over a year. The only time I restart it is if I want to fully discharge the battery, and that's probably just a ritual left over from NiCad days. My phone does let me remove the battery though, and I value that feature.
Anyway. Sounds like a load of commenters who haven't used the phone. As a Java monkey who ran Linux for a long time, it works really well and it's getting better. I'm a gradual convert to Windows 7 + WP7 + Xbox 360, and MS hopefully to pull another Xbox-style win, glad I got in early.
(And have you tried the dev tools? Amazing. If you're used to Objective C, welcome to the 21st century.)
Why can't the compiler figure this out? If I use no methods on a datatype then compile it as a primitive, otherwise either autobox or change the type to the object representation of the datatype. I think having both primitives and datatypes is a good idea, but why do we need to see it?
Autocomplete is nothing to do with the website; it's a browser thing. You can request that the browser disables autocomplete with a nonstandard (for HTML4) attribute, but the browser can ignore this if it chooses. I think possibly what you mean is if the site has dynamically generated IDs for its fields then it won't work?
...for one. Way more OO than Java etc. Secondly the article author doesn't know what Node.JS really is; we've had Javascript on the server for years: http://www.mozilla.org/rhino/
“Probably the silliest design of all time is the Star Trek ‘Enterprise’. It's obviously built with a clear notion of which way should be ‘up’ - but what does up or down mean in space? Why make the habitat section in the form of a saucer, anyway (except, perhaps, as homage to the old Kenneth-Arnold style UFO shape)? And, since the engines are so far off the centreline, why doesn't it only fly in loops?”
None of this makes sense. Of course you have to design a spaceship with a notion of which way is "up", if they have gravity and rooms inside them designed with a similar assumption in mind. And the engines aren't rockets. Seriously, I don't care about this stuff enough to make a career out of it, but the guy who does seems to be talking some crap!
"Admitting that 360 has failed would be giving up that dream, so it won't happen, even if customers continue to get their services elsewhere." - Bill Ray, September 2010
...this article sounds as though it's written entirely from information gleaned from somewhere like Gartner. Having once worked for a company which rates very highly in several Gartner categories, despite the actual quality of the offering, I can assure you that trends and predictions based on that sort of information are utterly useless.
About the best you can do is have experienced teams working on your projects. They will work around whatever tools corporate have imposed on them and make it work. If you have inexperienced teams, they won't be able to.
Takes forever. They really are that inefficient. Spend any time in SA and you'll see all the shortcuts and lack of forethought in the public services. Power cuts are common; as part of the daily traffic report on the radio they list which traffic lights aren't working; traffic is ridiculous due to the lack of road planning; phone signal is often terrible. The list goes on.
Having had a few different visas from South Africa I can well believe they are as inefficient as they make out. Funny that they admitted it.
If everyone used Spring, we'd all get there a lot quicker
And to be honest it's surprising how often it turns up, a developer needs to do something quickly and well, so they bung some Spring jars in a project and turn something around double quick :)
Actually a really nice improvement generally in terms of UI being even slicker, slightly more slick animations etc, as well as all the headlined features.
The author's actually suggesting that Google's schizophrenia regarding HTML5/native apps is something that will actually have a tangible effect, when 99% of consumers couldn't care less and don't even know the difference. In the same breath he says that the same diverse approach is Apple's strength. Love it.
Why's this article banging on about the file system? I think the headline writer and the article author should really talk to each other.
Also, about the UI borrowing heavily from iOS - really? Where's the big grid of tiny unmoving icons? Where are all the grey apps? It borrows from the Zune interface, sure, but it looks nothing like iOS. The only similarity is the "feel" which Apple perfected on their first try (and fair play) where things can be dragged and pinched and so on. But that is only one aspect of a UI, and this interface looks like a much better use of a non-phone-sized screen than iOS.
Finally, someone's already mentioned the WIMP blunder. Bad Google fu there.
The author of this article makes one good point: the app doesn't help at all with hyperchondria. Because hyperchondriacs would never install it.
If you're going to immortalise your Daily Mail thoughts, please don't call people workshy until you can be bothered to get up from writing a short article to open a dictionary.
Had a Windows Phone 7 phone for 3 months now. For the first two months I was waiting to be disappointed, but it's been great. NEVER frozen or slowed down, amazing UI IMO (lovely fonts, lots of negative space, I seriously never liked the grey-to-grey gradients that are all over iPhone apps, how people think that looks good is beyond me), lots of features out of the box, the Zune PC software looks amazing and (I think) is much more intuitive than iTunes. It's seriously an amazing start from MS; don't dismiss it out of hand.
P.s. no doubt the same numpties who are saying that MS are too late to the party with WP7 also said that when the Xbox was released.
So other than "able to fend of Somalians in speedboats" his piece is pretty much accurate. Being fitted "for" X just means the obscene cost of the boat doesn't include the cost of X, so to make the thing useful you have to spend even MORE money on parts and labour.
Once you put your iDevice in its mandatory bumper it loses most of its visual aesthetic appeal and all of its thinness anyway, so why bother putting the housing in the device at all. Then you can make an even thinner device that demos even better, but because the bumper keeps the phone the same size anyway you can carry on using a normal jack housing.
The problem might just be linguistic ambiguity. The terms "whitelist" and "blacklist" probably have no useful meaning in the context of search, where all sites that don't break Google's ToS are permitted.
Google might sometimes manually select which algorithms are used to rank certain sites, but they can do that and still truthfully claim to not "whitelist", if the question is put to them in a naive way.
Isn't hotspot compilation what Tracemonkey does as well?
And while I'm here, what's with the author's constant use of "quoted phrases" to describe what's going on? Isn't that how "teenagers" write their "geography reports" when they don't want to "take responsibility" for what they're writing?
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From the review, I'd be saying, "Why only 75%?"
It's actually a really positive review. I went to the second page assuming that'd be where all the downsides were, but that didn't happen.
Having used (very sceptically to start with) a WP7 device for a year now, I'd say:
1GHz single core is enough for the phone. Anything more is a bonus. It runs very fast. You're just used to Android needing multiple cores to make up for garbage collection causing UI stutter.
16GB is a lot. No MicroSD is a bit annoying, but for a lot of people (e.g. me) it's not a showstopper. I get by fine with 8GB at the moment. YMMV. @Silverburn obviously EITHER only 16GB of storage OR no MicroSD is the feature fail, you can't list them as two problems.
Almost every app I need (or have heard of on another platform and wanted) is either there or built into the OS.
I've NEVER had to powercycle/remove the battery on my phone from a crash. Not once, in over a year. The only time I restart it is if I want to fully discharge the battery, and that's probably just a ritual left over from NiCad days. My phone does let me remove the battery though, and I value that feature.
Anyway. Sounds like a load of commenters who haven't used the phone. As a Java monkey who ran Linux for a long time, it works really well and it's getting better. I'm a gradual convert to Windows 7 + WP7 + Xbox 360, and MS hopefully to pull another Xbox-style win, glad I got in early.
(And have you tried the dev tools? Amazing. If you're used to Objective C, welcome to the 21st century.)
SLC are the worst
You can't even log in and check your balance. What sort of 1990s banking operation is this?
Re: Very literally..
Dear sir
https://twitter.com/#!/robertlagrant/status/172592221936291843
Regards
Rob
:)
Re: What's a discussion on browsers,
Funny because it's true.
Is this only news because the iPad 3 has it?
If you stop feeding the crazy Apple fans, they may become less crazy.
Can't play my DVDs?
Really? 360 is a brilliant backup DVD player.
Commodity hardware without a fashion label is best value?
Shocker.
And yes echo the above comments - as soon as you try and scale up that commodity PC you'll have massive costs.
Just an aside for primitives vs objects
Why can't the compiler figure this out? If I use no methods on a datatype then compile it as a primitive, otherwise either autobox or change the type to the object representation of the datatype. I think having both primitives and datatypes is a good idea, but why do we need to see it?
Software patents?
See image.
Irony alert
You ARE you when you're hungry. Hunger (or anything else) doesn't change you, it reveals you.
Introspection five?
Website must support autocomplete?
Autocomplete is nothing to do with the website; it's a browser thing. You can request that the browser disables autocomplete with a nonstandard (for HTML4) attribute, but the browser can ignore this if it chooses. I think possibly what you mean is if the site has dynamically generated IDs for its fields then it won't work?
@Tom 38
Don't forget Crapita.
Also Talis, Fugitsu. Who else?
@Dan 55
If Windows maintains backward compatibility with code that requires soldering, then that is some serious effort gone into keeping everything working!
You will download your sneakers within 20 years.
Someone needs a better Internet connection.
Javascript is an awesome language...
...for one. Way more OO than Java etc. Secondly the article author doesn't know what Node.JS really is; we've had Javascript on the server for years: http://www.mozilla.org/rhino/
Node.JS is more than just that.
Probably should've asked that first
Develop first, ask question later? Brilliant.
Err...
“Probably the silliest design of all time is the Star Trek ‘Enterprise’. It's obviously built with a clear notion of which way should be ‘up’ - but what does up or down mean in space? Why make the habitat section in the form of a saucer, anyway (except, perhaps, as homage to the old Kenneth-Arnold style UFO shape)? And, since the engines are so far off the centreline, why doesn't it only fly in loops?”
None of this makes sense. Of course you have to design a spaceship with a notion of which way is "up", if they have gravity and rooms inside them designed with a similar assumption in mind. And the engines aren't rockets. Seriously, I don't care about this stuff enough to make a career out of it, but the guy who does seems to be talking some crap!
Legacy?
If you think eInk Kindles are legacy, you're doing it wrong :)
So both solutions are pyramid schemes
Fancy stuff.
"the thorny issue of procurement of such products within government"
Don't forget the thorny issue of why we need procurement departments for IT when open source software is involved.
Cashing in on the automatic advertising generated by a person being dead? He'll be better than Tupac for this!
Just give them an iPhone 4
...and see if they can tell the difference.
A quotation
"Admitting that 360 has failed would be giving up that dream, so it won't happen, even if customers continue to get their services elsewhere." - Bill Ray, September 2010
The problem is...
...this article sounds as though it's written entirely from information gleaned from somewhere like Gartner. Having once worked for a company which rates very highly in several Gartner categories, despite the actual quality of the offering, I can assure you that trends and predictions based on that sort of information are utterly useless.
About the best you can do is have experienced teams working on your projects. They will work around whatever tools corporate have imposed on them and make it work. If you have inexperienced teams, they won't be able to.
SA visa process is rubbish
Takes forever. They really are that inefficient. Spend any time in SA and you'll see all the shortcuts and lack of forethought in the public services. Power cuts are common; as part of the daily traffic report on the radio they list which traffic lights aren't working; traffic is ridiculous due to the lack of road planning; phone signal is often terrible. The list goes on.
Having had a few different visas from South Africa I can well believe they are as inefficient as they make out. Funny that they admitted it.
If everyone used Spring, we'd all get there a lot quicker
And to be honest it's surprising how often it turns up, a developer needs to do something quickly and well, so they bung some Spring jars in a project and turn something around double quick :)
Zombie Marie Curie to the rescue
http://xkcd.com/896/
Finally!
A journalist dealing with the essential topic of how other journalists covered a product release. Pulitzer?
Six of one
“doing a C#” rather than copying Java and passing it off as its own.
Got it today
Actually a really nice improvement generally in terms of UI being even slicker, slightly more slick animations etc, as well as all the headlined features.
Also WhatsApp - finally!
Marissa Meyer?
Have you ever read anything she's written? My goodness it's like legally blonde!
Or am I judging? Point me at something good she's written and I'll retract that.
Crazy article
The author's actually suggesting that Google's schizophrenia regarding HTML5/native apps is something that will actually have a tangible effect, when 99% of consumers couldn't care less and don't even know the difference. In the same breath he says that the same diverse approach is Apple's strength. Love it.
"this game is all about kicking zombies while there down"
Really? REALLY?
It's a circle and so it's curved all the way around
I can't believe it! The guy who "invented" the wheel copied Apple.
Pretty weird stuff
Why's this article banging on about the file system? I think the headline writer and the article author should really talk to each other.
Also, about the UI borrowing heavily from iOS - really? Where's the big grid of tiny unmoving icons? Where are all the grey apps? It borrows from the Zune interface, sure, but it looks nothing like iOS. The only similarity is the "feel" which Apple perfected on their first try (and fair play) where things can be dragged and pinched and so on. But that is only one aspect of a UI, and this interface looks like a much better use of a non-phone-sized screen than iOS.
Finally, someone's already mentioned the WIMP blunder. Bad Google fu there.
Hyperchondria
The author of this article makes one good point: the app doesn't help at all with hyperchondria. Because hyperchondriacs would never install it.
If you're going to immortalise your Daily Mail thoughts, please don't call people workshy until you can be bothered to get up from writing a short article to open a dictionary.
Not the whole story, natch
See also:
1) Animals can't get caught in them
2) They aren't made of petroleum/natural gas (they're renewable)
I work for them :)
This is easily the coolest acquisition we've ever made!
@andy gibson
Apple won't take action, as Mac Defender didn't use rounded icons. But if they HAD, there'd be a lawsuit filed faster than you can spell frivolous!
Dropbox lets you share files too
If you put files in your Public folder you can:
a) Share individual files with anyone (basically file permissions are read-only, but directory listing is not allowed)
b) Share an entire folder with another Dropbox user
And it has 2GB available with its free account.
Android app screens: http://blog.dropbox.com/?p=439
Well I'm convinced
Had a Windows Phone 7 phone for 3 months now. For the first two months I was waiting to be disappointed, but it's been great. NEVER frozen or slowed down, amazing UI IMO (lovely fonts, lots of negative space, I seriously never liked the grey-to-grey gradients that are all over iPhone apps, how people think that looks good is beyond me), lots of features out of the box, the Zune PC software looks amazing and (I think) is much more intuitive than iTunes. It's seriously an amazing start from MS; don't dismiss it out of hand.
P.s. no doubt the same numpties who are saying that MS are too late to the party with WP7 also said that when the Xbox was released.
@AndyLucia
So other than "able to fend of Somalians in speedboats" his piece is pretty much accurate. Being fitted "for" X just means the obscene cost of the boat doesn't include the cost of X, so to make the thing useful you have to spend even MORE money on parts and labour.
Just put the jack housing in the bumper
Once you put your iDevice in its mandatory bumper it loses most of its visual aesthetic appeal and all of its thinness anyway, so why bother putting the housing in the device at all. Then you can make an even thinner device that demos even better, but because the bumper keeps the phone the same size anyway you can carry on using a normal jack housing.
What does "whitelist" mean here anyway?
The problem might just be linguistic ambiguity. The terms "whitelist" and "blacklist" probably have no useful meaning in the context of search, where all sites that don't break Google's ToS are permitted.
Google might sometimes manually select which algorithms are used to rank certain sites, but they can do that and still truthfully claim to not "whitelist", if the question is put to them in a naive way.
Erm, Tracemonkey?
Isn't hotspot compilation what Tracemonkey does as well?
And while I'm here, what's with the author's constant use of "quoted phrases" to describe what's going on? Isn't that how "teenagers" write their "geography reports" when they don't want to "take responsibility" for what they're writing?
"I have strong confidence this is a solvable problem."
Wow. I hope he's not paid to communicate :)
While correlation != causation...
when it comes to disrupting Iranian nuclear facilities, Israel ~= causation.
'I work for Accenture'
Even if saying that doesn't get your laptop stolen, it may earn you a punch in the face
How on earth can 3G offer a comparable experience to wifi?
It's SO much slower. Seriously. I'm on HSPA and wifi is so obviously better.
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