So the stack, BSS and code will be disjoint now. What a concept! Mark BSS and Stack non-executable and the code non-writeable. What a concept! I wonder why M$ never figured it out, even though separate segments have been around since the 60s on various machines. I guess one must keep that legacy self-modifying code running.
"The choice of C syntax came about in the early days of the PC, through the need for a language which would deliver satisfactory perfromance on the puny 8086 processors of the day, but which would offer easier coding than pure assembly language. "
Hardly. Try PDP-8 and -11, both of which pre-date the 8080, let alone the 8086, quite substantially. Verbosity was NOT a feature of the language since VT-100 terminals at 9600 baud were all the rage. Real programmers (TM) hate to type.
If a tablet is a phone, then Anderoid may dominate. If the tablet is a pod, then it's Apple's all the way. There have been lots of cheap, and not-so-cheap attempts at de-throning the iPod, but none to date have been successful.
"Microsoft researchers unveiled some details of the ServiceOS project last summer, referring to it as a 'multi-principal OS-based browser' for controlling web services and devices."
And who might those 'principals' be? I always thought there was only one princiPAL running a school or that there was a princiPAL architect who ran the show.
It's no wonder that Nokia is burning faster than the Hindenburg when you consider that their "customer" isn't the person who actually uses the device. Elop may no be a Trojan, but he sure has the same DNA as his previous employer.
Microsoft needs a re-org all right, but they started too low in the management hierarchy. They really ought to clean house starting at the board of directors and work their way down from there.
Er, other way around... Telus (in the Queen's colony of Canada) is advertising a "FREE XBOX 360", provided, bien sur, that you "buy" a WP7 on contract. Talk about a loss leader.
"Ever try to run a Unix system on a 16bit processor with 512K of RAM? I think not. Unix was expensive and was much to large for the hardware. MS-DOS was cheap and ran just fine."
It worked fine on a PDP-11/45 with split I and D (making a whopping 128K of memory), and the disk may have had 20M on a good day. It also supported more than one user. So, your point is?
Micro kernels also work fine. Just ask the QNX folks. MS couldn't get the video working well enough with the uKernel, so we now have the monster that is NT and the joys of DLL.
You can read LDAP already. Writing LDAP appears to be a can of worms.
Setting LDAP access within thunderbird is not terribly obvious though. Go to the address book, then click on "FILE"->new->LDAP address book and away you go.
Anti trust.... why on earth would there be anti-trust involved? It's not like the world is dependent on iPhones and iPads now is it. If you don't like the product, don't buy it. Google is flogging phones which run flash, no? (er, strike that one...)
Apple has great customer support, and I am sure they're really happy about NOT getting billions of calls about short battery lifetimes because of some proprietary application draining the device in an hour or so.
Also, remind me again about the contributions to software engineering made by Adobe.
I guess microsoft is discovering the hard way all of the maddening inconsistencies in handling javascript, most of which were caused by...... microsoft. Have fun.
Cisco used to count the bandwidth going into AND out of the router when they came up with their capacity figures (i.e, your 1MB stream counted as 2MB through their router). Are they still up to this trick, or can the CRS 3 actually pass the quoted number????
I think that's the operative phrase, something that tends to rather foreign to Microsoft at times. It seems to work quite well for the folks in Cupertino too.
>Buffer overflows are a potential hazard in Linux and BSD as well as in Microsoft Windows.
>In IBM's mainframe operating systems, and in VMS, they're much less of an issue, because text files on disks are organized as a length code followed by the characters in a record, instead of characters followed by a carriage return, line feed, or both. So if the length code is one byte long, for example, it's impossible for a 256-byte buffer to be overflowed from a disk file.
Provided that you aren't using 'C' as your programming language on VM/CMS and/or VMS. Fortunately, most operating systems manage to map heap memory into separate regions so that if you whack your own stuff, you don't whack everyone else. Alas, Windows doesn't seem to understand this (why heap and stack and code are in the same address space on Windows is a mystery to me... Why didn't MS map these things into distinct regions of memory and use those horrid segment registers to keep things nice and tidy right from the get-go? Inquiring minds want to know!)
When they put the phone back in. Looking at the yute of today -- surfing and yacking -- this thing probably fits the bill of a netbook and phone all wrapped up in one. And as a road warrior who can't afford to call alot when traveling internationally, a phone and 'presentations' all in one box.
The machine in question had been the subject of a recall. In the old days, one was cautioned about smoking in bed. I guess surfing in bed is the 21st century equivalent.
Like people haven't cut their fingers off on table saws before. For the *nix lovers who want their cake and eat it too, there auroraux (http://auroraux.org/index.php/Main_Page). Coded in Ada, because "Ada sucks the least" (http://www.osnews.com/comments/21123)
The new look is all very nice, but it's still a pain in the arse to read on an iPod touch. Maybe you can steal some of the blokes from osnews.com to figure out how to do things right.
Register
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Cloudy with a chance of showers
Perhaps the new service will be called l-i-veCloud, without any emphasis on the 'i' of course.
It does seem fitting. Apple had to re-imagine mobile me too, so this is par for the course for microSoft.
Long live the queen
Victoria, that is.
When you jump off of a burning platform
One should at a minimum don one's survival suit.
And there's the rub...
No wonder AAPL is rolling in the dough. All those different handsets, all just slightly different. The testing must be a right royal pain in the arse.
Segment registers - wow
So the stack, BSS and code will be disjoint now. What a concept! Mark BSS and Stack non-executable and the code non-writeable. What a concept! I wonder why M$ never figured it out, even though separate segments have been around since the 60s on various machines. I guess one must keep that legacy self-modifying code running.
Nokia will be next
Google needed the patents. The lawyers must be salivating even as I type.
Deja Vu?
Nortel?
At least Cisco (still) has money in the bank.
{[Time] (to) {ditch {C syntax}}} ? ;
"The choice of C syntax came about in the early days of the PC, through the need for a language which would deliver satisfactory perfromance on the puny 8086 processors of the day, but which would offer easier coding than pure assembly language. "
Hardly. Try PDP-8 and -11, both of which pre-date the 8080, let alone the 8086, quite substantially. Verbosity was NOT a feature of the language since VT-100 terminals at 9600 baud were all the rage. Real programmers (TM) hate to type.
MELTemi
As in sales... How appropriate (unfortunately).
iPhone, yes, iPod, no.
If a tablet is a phone, then Anderoid may dominate. If the tablet is a pod, then it's Apple's all the way. There have been lots of cheap, and not-so-cheap attempts at de-throning the iPod, but none to date have been successful.
And those "actors" are?
"Microsoft researchers unveiled some details of the ServiceOS project last summer, referring to it as a 'multi-principal OS-based browser' for controlling web services and devices."
And who might those 'principals' be? I always thought there was only one princiPAL running a school or that there was a princiPAL architect who ran the show.
Oh, you mean principle... never mind then.
Tablets
The only thing related to tablets that one should use with respect to Microsoft are those labelled "Aspirin".
Share price movement simplified.
Buy on rumour, sell on facts.
Alas Finland, I'm sad to say you now have your own Nortel.
Paris, cause she knows about going down big time.
Later and later
It's no wonder that Nokia is burning faster than the Hindenburg when you consider that their "customer" isn't the person who actually uses the device. Elop may no be a Trojan, but he sure has the same DNA as his previous employer.
Off by one error
Microsoft needs a re-org all right, but they started too low in the management hierarchy. They really ought to clean house starting at the board of directors and work their way down from there.
Cisco's real problem...
is Huawei.
What comes around...
Maybe Huawei is afraid that Nokia/Siemens is going to rediscover their own code.
Stable Products?
The only stable thing coming from Microscoft is their earning-per-share "beat" each and every quarter. And even that's somewhat questionable.
Get a Free WP7 phone with an XBOX 360
Er, other way around... Telus (in the Queen's colony of Canada) is advertising a "FREE XBOX 360", provided, bien sur, that you "buy" a WP7 on contract. Talk about a loss leader.
No wonder
Did anyone actually think that a journalist could do math?
More important to Reg readers, how many pints does that equal?
Er, actually it ran fine on 128k...
"Ever try to run a Unix system on a 16bit processor with 512K of RAM? I think not. Unix was expensive and was much to large for the hardware. MS-DOS was cheap and ran just fine."
It worked fine on a PDP-11/45 with split I and D (making a whopping 128K of memory), and the disk may have had 20M on a good day. It also supported more than one user. So, your point is?
Micro kernels also work fine. Just ask the QNX folks. MS couldn't get the video working well enough with the uKernel, so we now have the monster that is NT and the joys of DLL.
And in other news
Bears defecate in the woods.
Bud
Not only can they not make beer, they can't spell either: ie "Bud Lite".
$diety only knows how one could make Bud in a "lite" version to begin with.
W2K For warships
Were they not towed back to port? (hopefully, for a refit).
Maildir
Just use IMAP to access your mailboxes.
LDAP
You can read LDAP already. Writing LDAP appears to be a can of worms.
Setting LDAP access within thunderbird is not terribly obvious though. Go to the address book, then click on "FILE"->new->LDAP address book and away you go.
Thank goodness for flashblock.
And for Steve baby for not putting Crash, er Flash, on the iPhone.
If you don't like it....
Anti trust.... why on earth would there be anti-trust involved? It's not like the world is dependent on iPhones and iPads now is it. If you don't like the product, don't buy it. Google is flogging phones which run flash, no? (er, strike that one...)
Apple has great customer support, and I am sure they're really happy about NOT getting billions of calls about short battery lifetimes because of some proprietary application draining the device in an hour or so.
Also, remind me again about the contributions to software engineering made by Adobe.
Eating your own dog food.
I guess microsoft is discovering the hard way all of the maddening inconsistencies in handling javascript, most of which were caused by...... microsoft. Have fun.
Remind me again
Why people actually choose windows.
Signed a happy solaris "downtime, what's that?" user.
Bing...
> Screw the results or the features...who came up with the name "Bing" anyway???
Because Its Not Google???????
Can they count
Cisco used to count the bandwidth going into AND out of the router when they came up with their capacity figures (i.e, your 1MB stream counted as 2MB through their router). Are they still up to this trick, or can the CRS 3 actually pass the quoted number????
"When things worked".
I think that's the operative phrase, something that tends to rather foreign to Microsoft at times. It seems to work quite well for the folks in Cupertino too.
There's no app for that...
What do you want to bet there will be 10 replacements out there within a week.
Time to start hacking!
Windows Series Seven
They're probably trying to tie it with their Windows Seven OS. None the less, who cares? The boat left the dock years ago.
One word
Flashblock
:-)
You are running a real browser right?
Eliminate buffer overflows
>Buffer overflows are a potential hazard in Linux and BSD as well as in Microsoft Windows.
>In IBM's mainframe operating systems, and in VMS, they're much less of an issue, because text files on disks are organized as a length code followed by the characters in a record, instead of characters followed by a carriage return, line feed, or both. So if the length code is one byte long, for example, it's impossible for a 256-byte buffer to be overflowed from a disk file.
Provided that you aren't using 'C' as your programming language on VM/CMS and/or VMS. Fortunately, most operating systems manage to map heap memory into separate regions so that if you whack your own stuff, you don't whack everyone else. Alas, Windows doesn't seem to understand this (why heap and stack and code are in the same address space on Windows is a mystery to me... Why didn't MS map these things into distinct regions of memory and use those horrid segment registers to keep things nice and tidy right from the get-go? Inquiring minds want to know!)
No flash
Cry me a river.
Wait for V2
When they put the phone back in. Looking at the yute of today -- surfing and yacking -- this thing probably fits the bill of a netbook and phone all wrapped up in one. And as a road warrior who can't afford to call alot when traveling internationally, a phone and 'presentations' all in one box.
What? No WMA
AAC, AAC+, MP3... wait a minute, what about my play's for sure library???????????
Flash in the pan?
Why on earth would I want to have flash on my iPhone. It's bad enough on my computer. Just say no!
And the nameless laptop is:
CTV's Canada AM blabbered out "Hewlett Packard". See
http://www.ctv.ca/servlet/ArticleNews/story/CTVNews/20090826/Laptop_Fire_090826/20090826?hub=Canada
The machine in question had been the subject of a recall. In the old days, one was cautioned about smoking in bed. I guess surfing in bed is the 21st century equivalent.
Love Apple
@jrk
i'd give my life for steve!
That seems rather steep even for Steve. However, I'm sure he'd take a liver.
Of course C sucks...
Like people haven't cut their fingers off on table saws before. For the *nix lovers who want their cake and eat it too, there auroraux (http://auroraux.org/index.php/Main_Page). Coded in Ada, because "Ada sucks the least" (http://www.osnews.com/comments/21123)
Remind me again
Why a computer needs virus protection in the first place?
Signed
Mr. Solaris.
Deja Vu...
Why so glum? Nortel outsourced lots of "non-core" functions rather successfully several years ago. Look where they are now!
Too Bad
Doubtless, Paris would have been a shoe-in for the lead role.
Not withstanding...
1) The content is crap.
2) Why by a CD when there's only one decent tune which I can get on iTunes for a buck
3) Rockband
The asteroid has landed in pirate bay.
embarasmentembarrassmentAmerikan
If I recall correctly, the Americans dropped all of those stupid U's in words like colour in order to save some ink when printing newspapers.
If you really want to go batty, write "canadian" which seems to take a bit of both British and American spellings. I.e. colour and program.
In the end, blame the French. It's all their fault.
Get with the times...
The new look is all very nice, but it's still a pain in the arse to read on an iPod touch. Maybe you can steal some of the blokes from osnews.com to figure out how to do things right.