Re: "likewise to prove the police aren't racist they need a National White Police Association
So, let's imagine a hypothetical problem; say, in a given industry, black employees are routinely discriminated against. Some employees want to set up a group to counter this, and you insist that another group be set up as well to do the same thing for white employees, despite the fact that those white employees aren't actually suffering the problem?
I need to repair my roof - should I also repair the flooring, which is not in need of repair? I might open a tin of beans tonight. Should I open all the other tins as well?
I disagree. I think that humanity is smart enough to be able to have the population the size it is AND do all these things. Yes, our current system of government and our current economy is bloody awful at managing it, but it's possible. Yes, we'll have to improve the collection and distribution networks, but water just goes round and round endlessly.
Why? Why should I, given the choice between using 167 litres per day and using a quarter of that, choose to go with the smaller option? I _like_ power showers. I _like_ being clean. I _like_ washing my clothes regularly. I _like_ all the other things I do with water. Why on earth would I choose _not_ to do these things?
They could do what everyone else (UK forces included) do; have your teeth checked out before you go, and preventative maintenance undertaken to ensure they're not a problem. 15 minutes with the dentist seems a better move than binning a (presumably highly-trained and expensive to make) Taikonaut; perhaps the dental budget is empty but the Taikonaut training courses have money to burn.
"First of all, I trust electronics more than I trust people."
If there was some way of designing, making and using electronics without using people, this would make sense. As it is, there isn't, so your choice is untrustworthy people with electronics, or untrustworthy people with bits of paper.
Maybe The Man might, but unless you're an international terrorist or an independent MP, you need only worry about people who would be foiled by the most elementary precautions that you choose not to take.
Do you wear your seatbelt? Why's that? If you ran into a tanker an 100MPH which then exploded, you'd still die, right? So why do you take that precaution? Do you look before crossing the road? Why bother? If you got hit by an asteroid the size of Poland looking wouldn't have helped.
The majority of criminals who work somewhere do not use their expertise to prevent crime - if they use it, they use it to carry out crime. Far more people help themselves from the till than turn in their workmates for doing so.
Crikey, have they finally done it and made unemployment a crime? Anyway, if the alternative is paying for his travel costs to the dole centre, an internet connection might be the cheaper alternative.
"Some things in the world are theoretically human-readable, but nobody ever reads them. Postscript source code is one example, the fiction of Cory Doctorow another"
Because that would be expensive, difficult and dangerous.
The following courtesy of the gorgeous RobotRollCall of Reddit fame.
"The Earth is in orbit around the sun. That means the Earth, and everything on it, is moving through space at about seventy thousand miles an hour. In order to drop something into the sun, you'd have to bring it to what is effectively a dead stop in space, which means accelerating it from rest to seventy thousand miles an hour going in the direction opposite the Earth's orbital motion.
That's twice the velocity necessary to fling something out of the solar system entirely. Now, we have launched a rocket to solar escape velocity before, about 35,000 miles an hour … but only once in all of human history, and doing so required a custom-assembled rocket and more than two hundred million US dollars, and the total payload was still only about a thousand pounds. And that's half of what we'd have to do, in terms of total velocity, to fire a payload of the same size into the sun … and rockets don't scale linearly with final velocity but rather exponentially, meaning the cost of putting a thousand-pound payload into the sun would probably be on the order of a billion US dollars, not counting the up-front R&D costs.
And did I mention that spent nuclear fuel is among the densest stuff on our planet? A cubic foot of the stuff weights more than a thousand pounds — 1,189 pounds, to be precise.
"Purely financial" doesn't even begin to cover it. To put any useful amount of the stuff into the sun would literally cost more than the total amount of money in the whole world."
All hardwired to one station, leaving a need for two points of UI only - an on/off switch, and a volume knob that looked like it could be operated but I never saw actually being used. Presumably once the volume is correct, there's no need to adjust it.
I went to read the actual paper and look at their data, and the answer is yes.
"Really? Do they cite ANY proof of this, the most central point of the argument?
Didn't think so.."
I went to read the actual paper and look at their data, and the answer is yes. It's arguable, yes, but they do present data.
You've clearly already decided and you didn't have the integrity to actually go and check. You're an embarrassment to your education system and ironically clearly ready to be replaced by a foreigner.
In the same way that idiots can produce a genius, and people who can't rub their faces without poking themselves in the eyes can produce a piano virtuoso, it's just possible that attractive people can produce a right swamp donkey. God, I hope so :)
"if Libya kicked off and your carrier was in an exercise in the Pacific, the Americans could have finished the whole affair before you got your carrier in position. "
6 months to travel from the Pacific to the Med? Might manage a bit faster with the engines running.
There is no one true language. Use the right tool for the job.
"While garbage collection in C++ is bound to be contentious, the reality is it's absolutely necessary before it can claim to be as safe to program as higher level languages."
Is there some special bonus for being as safe as some other language? Use the right tool for the job. If you need that level of safety provided by some other language, use that other language. If you don't, then don't. I do not want the extra overhead of such things, and am prepared to pay the extra time and care in coding to ensure I don't need them. Other people have different needs and should use a different tool.
Other eBook readers with no such interactivity pretensions do perfectly well without the complete set of a-z plus gubbins. Someone designing the kindle wanted more than page flipping and menu tripping.
National service may well keep the kids off the streets and maybe even benefit a couple of them. It would, however, be a bad move for the forces. The UK operates a small, highly-trained, motivated professional volunteer force. Everyone there chose to be there.
If we were to dump tens of thousands of angry youths on the forces, they would have to come up with a lot of extra money and resources to deal with them. For many of them it would effectively be a prison camp. Good people would be taken from their real duties and forced to babysit people who don't want to be there. The days of needing cannon fodder in the UK forces are behind us and many of the conscripts would be totally unusuable for important duties; I wouldn't trust them with anything that needed doing well, not paperwork, not maintenance, not supply, certainly not combat - I can't think of a single role in the forces that I'd feel comfortable assigning an angry, surly conscript to; they'd be passed from pillar to post, nothing more than an extra burden on the forces. The UK armed forces are not prison wardens, teachers or babysitters for tens of thousands of people with no interest in it. It would sap resources and morale and at the end of it they'd just be dumped back onto the streets.
To amplify on the subject of out of print, they founded their own press (Dodo) to reprint them. Which is just brilliant. I really get the feeling that the head bod actually likes books and likes selling books to people.
You've missed out. Their stock is not so good as Amazon, but it's still pretty vast. As a general rule of thumb, they're significantly cheaper and they offer free delivery. To the world. That's right, free delivery to the world (although they don't manage to deliver everywhere - there are countries they cannot deliver to).
They also have a charming habit of telling you the cost of the same book at amazon and at abebooks, depending on circumstances.
If you buy gold, it's a hedge against the spending power of your local currency dropping. In the event of serious financial disasters, it's one of the safest investments to have. There is, however, less physical gold in storage than the sum of people's certificates declaring that they own that gold. Furthermore, it's not unknown for governments in dire straits to simply make new laws about gold, screwing over the gold holders - all, that is, except those who have physical possession of the gold they own. So yes, given that owning gold is a hedge against financial upsets, hold the stuff in your own hands.
How many shoulder-launched SAMs do they use to take out the current range of helicopters (not just the ones carrying Brits)? So why would us putting a few more in the air to carry our soldiers suddenly cause that to change?
You can charge someone on suspicion of a crime, so long as you have reasonable suspicion, and then during the course of the investigation if a different charge would fit better, that can be arranged.
In your hypothetical case, the Germans would charge him with whatever they have reasonable suspicion of and then extradite, safe in the knowledge that if their investigation leads to a different charge, that can be applied at the appropriate juncture.
The Swedes, if they have reasonable suspicion, should charge. This appears to be a multi-national fishing expedition.
...the laws covering when we can and cannot deport someone are very clear, and he does not qualify for deportation.
"I'm just really, really board of this guy,"
Oh, well, if you're tired of reading about him but you don't want to moderate your own reading experience and instead want the rest of the world to adapt the news to your tastes, why don't you just fuck off?
Can we all please stop calling professional soldiers boys and girls?
They're out there, poorly-equipped, fighting a war of dubious use and morality, watching their colleagues get killed and injured and wondering when their own luck will run out.
If anything makes adults out of children, surely that does; to call them "boys" or "girls" is fucking patronising.
There is an extended analysis in follow-up, which seems to have disappeared, but the crux of it is that the false positive rate is about 0.000096, or one in ten thousand.
The false negative rate is about 0.000004, which is about one in two hundred and fifty thousand.
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Re: "likewise to prove the police aren't racist they need a National White Police Association
So, let's imagine a hypothetical problem; say, in a given industry, black employees are routinely discriminated against. Some employees want to set up a group to counter this, and you insist that another group be set up as well to do the same thing for white employees, despite the fact that those white employees aren't actually suffering the problem?
I need to repair my roof - should I also repair the flooring, which is not in need of repair? I might open a tin of beans tonight. Should I open all the other tins as well?
Something missing from this analysis, surely?
What, no examination of whether we'd be better of abandoning EuroMilk and just buying cheap from the US?
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Re: On the one hand...but on the other...
"A human would realise their mistake"
http://www.google.co.uk/search?q=follows+gps+into
Re: Absurd/@Alfred
I disagree. I think that humanity is smart enough to be able to have the population the size it is AND do all these things. Yes, our current system of government and our current economy is bloody awful at managing it, but it's possible. Yes, we'll have to improve the collection and distribution networks, but water just goes round and round endlessly.
Re: Absurd
Why? Why should I, given the choice between using 167 litres per day and using a quarter of that, choose to go with the smaller option? I _like_ power showers. I _like_ being clean. I _like_ washing my clothes regularly. I _like_ all the other things I do with water. Why on earth would I choose _not_ to do these things?
Departmental Budget Infighting?
They could do what everyone else (UK forces included) do; have your teeth checked out before you go, and preventative maintenance undertaken to ensure they're not a problem. 15 minutes with the dentist seems a better move than binning a (presumably highly-trained and expensive to make) Taikonaut; perhaps the dental budget is empty but the Taikonaut training courses have money to burn.
Re: Missing the point
"First of all, I trust electronics more than I trust people."
If there was some way of designing, making and using electronics without using people, this would make sense. As it is, there isn't, so your choice is untrustworthy people with electronics, or untrustworthy people with bits of paper.
Re: Re: SO?
Maybe The Man might, but unless you're an international terrorist or an independent MP, you need only worry about people who would be foiled by the most elementary precautions that you choose not to take.
Do you wear your seatbelt? Why's that? If you ran into a tanker an 100MPH which then exploded, you'd still die, right? So why do you take that precaution? Do you look before crossing the road? Why bother? If you got hit by an asteroid the size of Poland looking wouldn't have helped.
Known crims working for me? No thanks.
The majority of criminals who work somewhere do not use their expertise to prevent crime - if they use it, they use it to carry out crime. Far more people help themselves from the till than turn in their workmates for doing so.
booksiBook files are belong to us@Steve Ives :(
I don't understand.
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Crikey, have they finally done it and made unemployment a crime? Anyway, if the alternative is paying for his travel costs to the dole centre, an internet connection might be the cheaper alternative.
Saucer of milk for the Orlowski table
"Some things in the world are theoretically human-readable, but nobody ever reads them. Postscript source code is one example, the fiction of Cory Doctorow another"
Oooo, you bitch! Meow.
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Of similar note, one of the new kids at work had never seen Carpenter's "The Thing". Just what do they teach kids these days?
I'm afraid not.
"It would drop, eventually, if the speed is below Sun's escape velocity, so it's just enough to "throw it behind" in Earth orbit. No?"
No. That would simply be a different orbit. An orbit known to intersect Earth's orbit.
Expensive, difficult and dangerous
Because that would be expensive, difficult and dangerous.
The following courtesy of the gorgeous RobotRollCall of Reddit fame.
"The Earth is in orbit around the sun. That means the Earth, and everything on it, is moving through space at about seventy thousand miles an hour. In order to drop something into the sun, you'd have to bring it to what is effectively a dead stop in space, which means accelerating it from rest to seventy thousand miles an hour going in the direction opposite the Earth's orbital motion.
That's twice the velocity necessary to fling something out of the solar system entirely. Now, we have launched a rocket to solar escape velocity before, about 35,000 miles an hour … but only once in all of human history, and doing so required a custom-assembled rocket and more than two hundred million US dollars, and the total payload was still only about a thousand pounds. And that's half of what we'd have to do, in terms of total velocity, to fire a payload of the same size into the sun … and rockets don't scale linearly with final velocity but rather exponentially, meaning the cost of putting a thousand-pound payload into the sun would probably be on the order of a billion US dollars, not counting the up-front R&D costs.
And did I mention that spent nuclear fuel is among the densest stuff on our planet? A cubic foot of the stuff weights more than a thousand pounds — 1,189 pounds, to be precise.
"Purely financial" doesn't even begin to cover it. To put any useful amount of the stuff into the sun would literally cost more than the total amount of money in the whole world."
Taking "support" to mean "favourable":
What is the record support level? 40%. What level has been hit? 40%.
Did the support level (40%) hit the record high(40%)? Yes.
You can enhance the effect by using one finger to slide the bridge of a pair of glasses back into place at the top of your nose.
North Korean TVs are fantastically simple
All hardwired to one station, leaving a need for two points of UI only - an on/off switch, and a volume knob that looked like it could be operated but I never saw actually being used. Presumably once the volume is correct, there's no need to adjust it.
No need, shipmate
The pirates are way ahead of you. You've got to compete with both free AND available in a convenient format.
Oh no
"Sorry."
We're really broken up. We'd set our hearts on your reading this. Christmas is ruined.
I went to read the actual paper and look at their data, and the answer is yes.
"Really? Do they cite ANY proof of this, the most central point of the argument?
Didn't think so.."
I went to read the actual paper and look at their data, and the answer is yes. It's arguable, yes, but they do present data.
You've clearly already decided and you didn't have the integrity to actually go and check. You're an embarrassment to your education system and ironically clearly ready to be replaced by a foreigner.
The point? No buddy, you missed it, go back and take that left turn by the lights.
"In order to get more Americans in work, you hire foreigners to take the jobs..?"
No, you hire foreigners to CREATE more jobs. It's like you didn't even read it.
I wonder how they ended up so lazy?
Who raised them? The previous generation, was it? Time to take a look in the mirror and ask yourself what you were thinking.
Page 1, Chapter 1: Thank you for purchasing this thousand page shellcode guide...
I'm actually quite impressed at the depth of knowledge required to do this. Bravo, chaps. No pandering to the "prizes for all" crowd here. Sadly :(
The beauty of genetics
In the same way that idiots can produce a genius, and people who can't rub their faces without poking themselves in the eyes can produce a piano virtuoso, it's just possible that attractive people can produce a right swamp donkey. God, I hope so :)
Whoever did the plumbing must have (not) been taking the piss.
"if Libya kicked off and your carrier was in an exercise in the Pacific, the Americans could have finished the whole affair before you got your carrier in position. "
6 months to travel from the Pacific to the Med? Might manage a bit faster with the engines running.
Free speech and evidence of sexual abuse are not actually the same thing
Need I say more.
Question mark deliberately excluded.
There is no one true language. Use the right tool for the job.
"While garbage collection in C++ is bound to be contentious, the reality is it's absolutely necessary before it can claim to be as safe to program as higher level languages."
Is there some special bonus for being as safe as some other language? Use the right tool for the job. If you need that level of safety provided by some other language, use that other language. If you don't, then don't. I do not want the extra overhead of such things, and am prepared to pay the extra time and care in coding to ensure I don't need them. Other people have different needs and should use a different tool.
So why 26 keys plus extra?
Other eBook readers with no such interactivity pretensions do perfectly well without the complete set of a-z plus gubbins. Someone designing the kindle wanted more than page flipping and menu tripping.
National service is bad for the forces
National service may well keep the kids off the streets and maybe even benefit a couple of them. It would, however, be a bad move for the forces. The UK operates a small, highly-trained, motivated professional volunteer force. Everyone there chose to be there.
If we were to dump tens of thousands of angry youths on the forces, they would have to come up with a lot of extra money and resources to deal with them. For many of them it would effectively be a prison camp. Good people would be taken from their real duties and forced to babysit people who don't want to be there. The days of needing cannon fodder in the UK forces are behind us and many of the conscripts would be totally unusuable for important duties; I wouldn't trust them with anything that needed doing well, not paperwork, not maintenance, not supply, certainly not combat - I can't think of a single role in the forces that I'd feel comfortable assigning an angry, surly conscript to; they'd be passed from pillar to post, nothing more than an extra burden on the forces. The UK armed forces are not prison wardens, teachers or babysitters for tens of thousands of people with no interest in it. It would sap resources and morale and at the end of it they'd just be dumped back onto the streets.
If they are being bought essentially to be shut down...
Does anyone fancy starting a business with a website called something like www.thenewbookdepository.co.uk? There's clearly a viable business there.
Print on demand
To amplify on the subject of out of print, they founded their own press (Dodo) to reprint them. Which is just brilliant. I really get the feeling that the head bod actually likes books and likes selling books to people.
They're actually pretty good
You've missed out. Their stock is not so good as Amazon, but it's still pretty vast. As a general rule of thumb, they're significantly cheaper and they offer free delivery. To the world. That's right, free delivery to the world (although they don't manage to deliver everywhere - there are countries they cannot deliver to).
They also have a charming habit of telling you the cost of the same book at amazon and at abebooks, depending on circumstances.
Hell yes
If you buy gold, it's a hedge against the spending power of your local currency dropping. In the event of serious financial disasters, it's one of the safest investments to have. There is, however, less physical gold in storage than the sum of people's certificates declaring that they own that gold. Furthermore, it's not unknown for governments in dire straits to simply make new laws about gold, screwing over the gold holders - all, that is, except those who have physical possession of the gold they own. So yes, given that owning gold is a hedge against financial upsets, hold the stuff in your own hands.
Because she's just such an example
"...photos of him working, sleeping, staring deliriously & wacking off to porn."
One can make a reasonable living providing such things.
Scratched record
True, but that's what you would expect; if the defence industry doesn't change, why would the analysis?
And what size, pray, is a "full page pdf"?
You can make a pdf page an inch square or really really big.
Can we sue Ford
Can we sue Ford for making cars that were subsequently used in the execution of crimes?
The title is not required, and must contain letters and/or digits.
" Weren't tanks the whole basis of the Gulf War 1 and the liberation of Kuwait ?"
It turned out that there wasn't actually anything for them to do once they got there. The airpower that went ahead cleared the table.
Join the dots, buddy
How many shoulder-launched SAMs do they use to take out the current range of helicopters (not just the ones carrying Brits)? So why would us putting a few more in the air to carry our soldiers suddenly cause that to change?
Provisionally sold....
Stick a grown-up operating system on there (my preference is a Linux dist or a *BSD) and I'll take one.
What about every other car insurance company?
They ALL charge men more, you silly muppet.
Just how bad _was_ the U.S. financial collapse?
First time in a long time I've seen the U.S. referred to as an emerging market for consumer tech.
No, really?
Who do you think actually missed the point here? Here's a clue in the "state the obvious" style you prefer; it's you.
You've got it wrong
You can charge someone on suspicion of a crime, so long as you have reasonable suspicion, and then during the course of the investigation if a different charge would fit better, that can be arranged.
In your hypothetical case, the Germans would charge him with whatever they have reasonable suspicion of and then extradite, safe in the knowledge that if their investigation leads to a different charge, that can be applied at the appropriate juncture.
The Swedes, if they have reasonable suspicion, should charge. This appears to be a multi-national fishing expedition.
Because...
...the laws covering when we can and cannot deport someone are very clear, and he does not qualify for deportation.
"I'm just really, really board of this guy,"
Oh, well, if you're tired of reading about him but you don't want to moderate your own reading experience and instead want the rest of the world to adapt the news to your tastes, why don't you just fuck off?
They're not boys or girls.
Can we all please stop calling professional soldiers boys and girls?
They're out there, poorly-equipped, fighting a war of dubious use and morality, watching their colleagues get killed and injured and wondering when their own luck will run out.
If anything makes adults out of children, surely that does; to call them "boys" or "girls" is fucking patronising.
The second part seems to have wandered off
There is an extended analysis in follow-up, which seems to have disappeared, but the crux of it is that the false positive rate is about 0.000096, or one in ten thousand.
The false negative rate is about 0.000004, which is about one in two hundred and fifty thousand.
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