One of teh few reasons I still have a video player ...
I bought that 'excellent' DVD set to replace my ageing video copy, but instead it was the former that got filed away. Compared to the original there were various bits that appeared to have been edited by the PC brigade, especially the opening (the curry house advert 'and after while not see the movie Monty Python and the holy Grail at a near by cinema').
If the Blu Ray movie is the same version as on the DVD, then I'll stick with my video until it eventually wears out.
Of all the people it was my 82 year old grand mother who persuaded my parents that they should buy me a computer. I had played on micros before at school, which had a PET a couple of CBM4032s and a Sharp MZ-700.
I actually managed to keep hold of sales brochures for the VIC-20, Acorn Atom, Acron Electron, BBC Micro, Sinclair ZX-81, Sinclair Spectrum, Oric Atmos (did not have for the -1), Dragon32, Juniper, and one other the model of which I forget but which had ana elephant in the advert (can anyone else remember what it was ?). Unfortunately when I went to university my mother saw them and assumed they were junk ......
Back to the VIC-20 - mine was european serial number 00000023 which sounds really cool however the first in this country came with Japanese power supplies, which were not legal over here, so were taken back. In the end (I think it was well over a month later - a very long time for a 13/14 year old boy) Commodore gave me it's replacement which was huge in comparison (and would not fit in the box - my parents would insist on me putting it away each night). In compensation though, Commodore did give us all a free 3K memory pack which at the time was rather expensive
I remember follwoing this on dpreview a good few months ago. Lytro have had a good 6-12 months to covert their OSX software to Windows but there seems to be no urgency. The fact they appear to be working on an iPad version instead unfortunately says a certain amount about their mentaility and business sense.
Nice idea that came out of a research project, but potentially with the wrong people running the company and niche product written all over it.
Ok turns out that in my case it's not the issue, mine is fine - it's our wireless routers - the iPad 2 guys suffer the same. Guess by the sounds of things I'm one of the lucky people with fully working wifi.
Just tested speed using speedtest.net along side my HTC Desire Z using the same tester and same target location.
Run side by side multiple times and on every occasion my iPad gets better results than my phone, so looks like losing connection is my only issue, but a right PITA one.
I've got a wifi 3rd generation iPad. Signal strength wise it seems fine and I've not tested speed. At home I've not had any issues, perhaps because I've not seen any (as will be explained in a tick).
At work we have a 'public wireless network' that requires authentication when you connect. With my phone I log in when I arrive and it still works when I leave. If I head out for lunch on return and my new conenction I have to re-authenticate. On my iPad I find I have to re-authenticate after only around 4-5 minutes on inactivity, where as colelagues with iPad2s have no such problem.
I suspect some thing is causing my iPad to drop and reconnect regularly and the only reason i've not noticed it at home is there I have just WPA key and MAC address access lists as security.
Time to see if this is one of the common complaints and then plan a trip to a near by Apple store
Are superb and worth it despite the cost. Was recommended one by a colleague and since then I've done to the same to friends and other colleagues.
Only thing is it is designed to fit US cup holders so if you want to use it in the car check dimensions first as some Euro manufacturers make their cup holders too small (Citroen/Peugot being one)
In my Citroen C6 it just brings up a menu of choices for who you want to help you (and also requires a sim to be plugged in - though I suspect a bluetooth equiped model may just need to be synched).
Shame that possibly the largest oil layer ever found has recently reared it's head in the Kurdistan area of Iraq. It's a British registered company at the forefront there as well (GKP) though there are plenty of rumours of the big US companies looking to buy them out.
... these things are remarkably good media players, and with even Dixons Group now selling the 16 GB one at £169, 32GB one for just £199, and even the 64GB one for £249, perhaps they are now about to become a cheap but decent alternative (especially if suitable android software is ported across)
I've used the previous version of Gogole maps (as it was updated in the alst couple of days) on my Android phone (2.3.3) and found it to be poor comapred to my Garmin.
I've got the lifetime updates for my garmin as well, but navteq, whom both Garmin and Tomtom get their data from, still have not added the changes at Adlgate/Whitechapel despite them being a busy main commute road that was changed some 3-4 years ago.
My understanding, as was also highligthed yesterday (I think) is that the author can only distribute it in different formats if they provide the book for free. If they sell it through Apple then they can't produce alternate formats for use else where.
o.k. confession time, who else pressed the big red button SHODAN was determind you should leave alone to find you'd just wiped out half the earth on his behalf ....
The PCW in Watford had at least one in on Saturday when I was passing time there. Not sure I'd have picked one up if iId known about the upgrade (after all Motorala do not have the best reputation for providing these on their android products) as I'm not a big fan of their products having ahd my figners burnt through their design and build quality in the past.
£45 for the game and one month's play time (£8-9 depending on how much you buy in advance). I don't remember paying over £20 for DAoC or WoW (at a time when PC games actually cost more) and both of those also included the first month free, and then there was Eve and CoH where the base game was free.
On the down time - my understanding was that they had US and Euro servers ? if this is the case then having Euro servers going down for maintenance at the same time as the US ones just smacks of poor management and laziness at a higher level. Was never an issue in the other regional-server games I've played.
As for me I just don't have the time at the moment to start another MMO, but once the price comes down (as it must surely do) in probably 6-12 months time, then I might be able to give it a try.
Most the motoring manufacturers have already admitted that battery and hybrid cars are only a stop gap until hydrogen powered can be made safe and fuel supply safe and common.
Net result is these cars are expensive pseudo green (you need a power station to make the fuel, but that's moot as the batteries are highly unsound from an eco point of view - can't be disposed of properly, contain many poisonous elements, can't be reused once dead, expensive and dirty to make to make, some of the rare elements in them are got from strip mining ...) folly for those trying to make a fashion statement about being green.
The MP4-12C has lost virtually every comparison test it's been in, mainly due to a 'lack of soul and involvement', so much so that McLaren are now producing an updated model with the improvements being back fitted to existing cars for free.
Among the various issues that plagues the Gingerbread upgrade of the Desire Z is that battery life is much worse. In the 2.2.4 days I used to get back home (with an extended battery) with ~40-50% left, not I'm lucky if I have 20%.
Perhaps in the Apple/Google war Apple have decided to copy Google on more than just the status bar ....
Rocky Horror Picture Show is a rock'n'roll movie, not a movie about rock'n'roll ;)
For those die hards there's also Runaways, however you do need to be a fan of the band or of Joan Jett to get most out of it else it's a bit of a drag.
The author did say he was not using 3rd party apps (aside from HTC sense) and most those widgets are 3rd party. The stock android ones are generally as bad as the email client - rubbish.
I do think widgets are very useful, use 7 myself, but none are stock android ones.
The official gingerbread upgrade killed the phone, making it slow and causing request UI crashes. Despite all the complaints they refuse to acknowledge the issue. My phone went back twice for OS downgrades - even Vodafone UK told them to return my phone back to 2.2.4, both times they ignored it saying the latest and greatest worked so it must be my fault.
Net result is I'd go HTC again but I'll not let the phone be upgraded and I'd not trust HTC to sort out any issues or their help desk to be useful.
Funny thing is I can but compliment Vodafone UK as they were helpful and ended up sending me a replacement phone. Alas all new Desire Z already come with 2.3.3
For pointing out you want to use a hands free set - as Android, does not, never has, and probably never will support hands free voice dialling - yes there is a third party product that works well but why the blazes should you have to buy extras from third part vendors to provide basic functionality that should have been there from the start.
(and before anyone accuses me of being anti-android, I've got a HTC Desire Z, which until the Gingerbread update worked well - once I'd found ways round all of Android's short comings)
Sure it works, if you want a complete new set of folders in your gmail mail box and the lack of ability to delete anything. I ended up dropping gmail from my K-9 config (I have other mail boxes to poll) and just use Google's own crappy email reader instead for that mailbox.
I think the big problem is it's buggy, but mainly in small ways
I still use K9 - but only because there's nothing better (at least free) for Android at the moment. Thing is it is buggy and new releases just bring new 'features'. I suspect it's too many fingers in the source code pie.
... that the large excess stocks of their laptops were to be dumped on UK and Europe resulting in many deals - I know there were some serious reductions at PCW that would have made one tempting if I were looking for a new laptop (even with their reputation for being less reliable than many of their rivals).
I tried one in PCW a few weeks back. It's so difficult to use I could not get it out of the music player application it appeared to be stuck in, nor could i turn it off and on to see if that fixed things.
The advantage of e-ink is not necessarily the battery life - though that does help, but the fact that you can quite happily read one with tired eyes, or for long periods of time, some thing LEDs prevent.
I initially entered the Sonos world when the new hand controller came out and Richer Sounds panicked, selling the ZP100/ZP120/Old controller set at knock down prices (well 25% off). Never regretted it (was also looking at a squeezebox system at the time). Since then added a S5 when it came out and now a Play 3 for moving around where needed (Richer Sounds did a 20% off weekend a few weeks back).
As to those who those who rate the Logitech system higher - it's a nice system (or at least was - have Logitech dropped most of it now), cheaper, but limited by the range of your wireless router, not the nearest device in the same network, and does not do true zone linking. Also you're not reliant on dedicated software on a PC or flakey versions on a NAS to access your music, Sonos will work with CIFS, SMB, and DNLA.
To those who think the Play3 is a mono device - it's not, but if you have two then you can configure them so they act as a left or right speaker in a pair.
I do agree Sonos can be expensive, but there can also be some good deals out there. Also if you have an android or iOS device then you do not need an expensive Sonos controller or a PC/MAC to run the system.
You could get a Sonos ZP120 zone player and plug a pair of speakers in to that. Note the Play 3 is a stereo player, it's just that Sonos give you the functionality to use a pair as if they were left/right speakers.
Do Apple batteries actually last 18 months, or are they like most other laptop batteries - using the computer plugged in and about 6-12 months the battery is dead ?
DId I understand that correctly, it can play music/videos on the phone from other devices ? (i.e. a NAS). If so does it use it's own video codecs, or just the ones default on android ?
Actually the publishers are now holding Amazon to ransom with pricing - refusing to supply any books unless Amazon sell at their chosen prices - it's the Net book agreement all over again. Amazon have taken the cartel of four to the Euro courts.
is a rather useful piece of software called Calibre. Unless you want to break DRM with your conversions as they have stated their software will never be programmed to allow you to do it.
If this is more to do with the fact that Sony have announced they are going to open their own book store, and thus take sales away from Waterstones, rather than trying to rival Amazon and Barnes & Noble.
Big joke, at £89 it's worth a punt, however every one else seemed to think so. Managed to get one in my basket and it stayed there right until I went to pay for it, then it vanished.
Does feel like they only had a few and this was a con to just get more punters through the website. Poor till system as well if it doesn't put a temporary reserve your chosen item(s) so you can actually complete the purchase.
If EA still have the code then you do have a valid argument, but if not, then they're not losing money through the site in the main topic. And trust me old titles do get deleted - I know from direct contact that Ubisoft deleted most the back catalogue of Blue Byte Games (I was trying to track down a replacement copy of Historyline 1914-18 for the PC and approached them to find out where I could get/buy a copy from) and the same could be possible for the Bullfrog titles.
Totally agree with you, but people (like us) who think like that are still more likely to be going for some thing more flexible and physically stronger than base level bodies ;) Having said that I still do miss my D70 from time to time, but then the low end cameras from back then (EOS 300D and D70) would now be considered mid to upper consumer range).
And Nikon don't ? - I seem to remember the last Nikon without internal screw control was phased out a few years back and it did not stop you using top end glass, just the auto-focus functionality. And let's be serious here, who's going to decide to buy a low end body and then buy several thousand pounds of glass. If they can afford the lenses and want to buy them, then spending £500 more on a high end body would not be an issue.
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One of teh few reasons I still have a video player ...
I bought that 'excellent' DVD set to replace my ageing video copy, but instead it was the former that got filed away. Compared to the original there were various bits that appeared to have been edited by the PC brigade, especially the opening (the curry house advert 'and after while not see the movie Monty Python and the holy Grail at a near by cinema').
If the Blu Ray movie is the same version as on the DVD, then I'll stick with my video until it eventually wears out.
VIC-20 Was My First Microcomputer
Of all the people it was my 82 year old grand mother who persuaded my parents that they should buy me a computer. I had played on micros before at school, which had a PET a couple of CBM4032s and a Sharp MZ-700.
I actually managed to keep hold of sales brochures for the VIC-20, Acorn Atom, Acron Electron, BBC Micro, Sinclair ZX-81, Sinclair Spectrum, Oric Atmos (did not have for the -1), Dragon32, Juniper, and one other the model of which I forget but which had ana elephant in the advert (can anyone else remember what it was ?). Unfortunately when I went to university my mother saw them and assumed they were junk ......
Back to the VIC-20 - mine was european serial number 00000023 which sounds really cool however the first in this country came with Japanese power supplies, which were not legal over here, so were taken back. In the end (I think it was well over a month later - a very long time for a 13/14 year old boy) Commodore gave me it's replacement which was huge in comparison (and would not fit in the box - my parents would insist on me putting it away each night). In compensation though, Commodore did give us all a free 3K memory pack which at the time was rather expensive
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Re: Only Mac?
I remember follwoing this on dpreview a good few months ago. Lytro have had a good 6-12 months to covert their OSX software to Windows but there seems to be no urgency. The fact they appear to be working on an iPad version instead unfortunately says a certain amount about their mentaility and business sense.
Nice idea that came out of a research project, but potentially with the wrong people running the company and niche product written all over it.
Re: Explains an issue I have
Ok turns out that in my case it's not the issue, mine is fine - it's our wireless routers - the iPad 2 guys suffer the same. Guess by the sounds of things I'm one of the lucky people with fully working wifi.
Re: Explains an issue I have
Just tested speed using speedtest.net along side my HTC Desire Z using the same tester and same target location.
Run side by side multiple times and on every occasion my iPad gets better results than my phone, so looks like losing connection is my only issue, but a right PITA one.
Explains an issue I have
I've got a wifi 3rd generation iPad. Signal strength wise it seems fine and I've not tested speed. At home I've not had any issues, perhaps because I've not seen any (as will be explained in a tick).
At work we have a 'public wireless network' that requires authentication when you connect. With my phone I log in when I arrive and it still works when I leave. If I head out for lunch on return and my new conenction I have to re-authenticate. On my iPad I find I have to re-authenticate after only around 4-5 minutes on inactivity, where as colelagues with iPad2s have no such problem.
I suspect some thing is causing my iPad to drop and reconnect regularly and the only reason i've not noticed it at home is there I have just WPA key and MAC address access lists as security.
Time to see if this is one of the common complaints and then plan a trip to a near by Apple store
Contigo Mugs ...
Are superb and worth it despite the cost. Was recommended one by a colleague and since then I've done to the same to friends and other colleagues.
Only thing is it is designed to fit US cup holders so if you want to use it in the car check dimensions first as some Euro manufacturers make their cup holders too small (Citroen/Peugot being one)
Re: SOS Button
In my Citroen C6 it just brings up a menu of choices for who you want to help you (and also requires a sim to be plugged in - though I suspect a bluetooth equiped model may just need to be synched).
Shame that possibly the largest oil layer ever found has recently reared it's head in the Kurdistan area of Iraq. It's a British registered company at the forefront there as well (GKP) though there are plenty of rumours of the big US companies looking to buy them out.
It is my understanding that ...
... these things are remarkably good media players, and with even Dixons Group now selling the 16 GB one at £169, 32GB one for just £199, and even the 64GB one for £249, perhaps they are now about to become a cheap but decent alternative (especially if suitable android software is ported across)
Think it depends where you're going
I've used the previous version of Gogole maps (as it was updated in the alst couple of days) on my Android phone (2.3.3) and found it to be poor comapred to my Garmin.
Re: Re: map costs
I've got the lifetime updates for my garmin as well, but navteq, whom both Garmin and Tomtom get their data from, still have not added the changes at Adlgate/Whitechapel despite them being a busy main commute road that was changed some 3-4 years ago.
Understand how you feel
As the Gingerberad update to the Desire Z virtually killed the phone - though HTC deny this.
by my reckoning
03:14:08 on the 19th of January 2038
Not quite
My understanding, as was also highligthed yesterday (I think) is that the author can only distribute it in different formats if they provide the book for free. If they sell it through Apple then they can't produce alternate formats for use else where.
Remember last November's Android AV Test
How does this compare ? As a result of that one I switched to Zoner, the best of the free ones. Does Avast have better detection rates ?
Don't touch that button ....
o.k. confession time, who else pressed the big red button SHODAN was determind you should leave alone to find you'd just wiped out half the earth on his behalf ....
The PCW in Watford had at least one in on Saturday when I was passing time there. Not sure I'd have picked one up if iId known about the upgrade (after all Motorala do not have the best reputation for providing these on their android products) as I'm not a big fan of their products having ahd my figners burnt through their design and build quality in the past.
@ Ravenviz
Would prefer a ringworld, as long as it's builders aren't around ...
Nor that the maximum shutter speed goes down as the ISO goes up.
It's still very expensive though
£45 for the game and one month's play time (£8-9 depending on how much you buy in advance). I don't remember paying over £20 for DAoC or WoW (at a time when PC games actually cost more) and both of those also included the first month free, and then there was Eve and CoH where the base game was free.
On the down time - my understanding was that they had US and Euro servers ? if this is the case then having Euro servers going down for maintenance at the same time as the US ones just smacks of poor management and laziness at a higher level. Was never an issue in the other regional-server games I've played.
As for me I just don't have the time at the moment to start another MMO, but once the price comes down (as it must surely do) in probably 6-12 months time, then I might be able to give it a try.
Technology Dead End
Most the motoring manufacturers have already admitted that battery and hybrid cars are only a stop gap until hydrogen powered can be made safe and fuel supply safe and common.
Net result is these cars are expensive pseudo green (you need a power station to make the fuel, but that's moot as the batteries are highly unsound from an eco point of view - can't be disposed of properly, contain many poisonous elements, can't be reused once dead, expensive and dirty to make to make, some of the rare elements in them are got from strip mining ...) folly for those trying to make a fashion statement about being green.
The MP4-12C has lost virtually every comparison test it's been in, mainly due to a 'lack of soul and involvement', so much so that McLaren are now producing an updated model with the improvements being back fitted to existing cars for free.
Had crossed my mind ...
... to post this story on PH and see just how bad the response is.
Number 5
If i'm correct it's not a missile, but rather the fuselage of an AVRO 720 rocket fighter.
I agree on #7 being a canbera, but 6 confuses me as I thought it was a bloodhound, but as some one else has pointed out the RN did not use it.
Agree there
Among the various issues that plagues the Gingerbread upgrade of the Desire Z is that battery life is much worse. In the 2.2.4 days I used to get back home (with an extended battery) with ~40-50% left, not I'm lucky if I have 20%.
Perhaps in the Apple/Google war Apple have decided to copy Google on more than just the status bar ....
Surely ... It's Astounding ....
Rocky Horror Picture Show is a rock'n'roll movie, not a movie about rock'n'roll ;)
For those die hards there's also Runaways, however you do need to be a fan of the band or of Joan Jett to get most out of it else it's a bit of a drag.
However ...
The author did say he was not using 3rd party apps (aside from HTC sense) and most those widgets are 3rd party. The stock android ones are generally as bad as the email client - rubbish.
I do think widgets are very useful, use 7 myself, but none are stock android ones.
You ought to try being a HTC Desire Z Owner
The official gingerbread upgrade killed the phone, making it slow and causing request UI crashes. Despite all the complaints they refuse to acknowledge the issue. My phone went back twice for OS downgrades - even Vodafone UK told them to return my phone back to 2.2.4, both times they ignored it saying the latest and greatest worked so it must be my fault.
Net result is I'd go HTC again but I'll not let the phone be upgraded and I'd not trust HTC to sort out any issues or their help desk to be useful.
Funny thing is I can but compliment Vodafone UK as they were helpful and ended up sending me a replacement phone. Alas all new Desire Z already come with 2.3.3
Was he ever even interested in the end product ?
Jobs only took Pixar as a mechanism to sell NeXT computers are he tried to force them on Lasseter and co as the tools they were to use.
Can't believe some oen amrked you down
For pointing out you want to use a hands free set - as Android, does not, never has, and probably never will support hands free voice dialling - yes there is a third party product that works well but why the blazes should you have to buy extras from third part vendors to provide basic functionality that should have been there from the start.
(and before anyone accuses me of being anti-android, I've got a HTC Desire Z, which until the Gingerbread update worked well - once I'd found ways round all of Android's short comings)
K-9 is useless on Gmail
Sure it works, if you want a complete new set of folders in your gmail mail box and the lack of ability to delete anything. I ended up dropping gmail from my K-9 config (I have other mail boxes to poll) and just use Google's own crappy email reader instead for that mailbox.
I think the big problem is it's buggy, but mainly in small ways
I still use K9 - but only because there's nothing better (at least free) for Android at the moment. Thing is it is buggy and new releases just bring new 'features'. I suspect it's too many fingers in the source code pie.
There was an articale here a few months back ...
... that the large excess stocks of their laptops were to be dumped on UK and Europe resulting in many deals - I know there were some serious reductions at PCW that would have made one tempting if I were looking for a new laptop (even with their reputation for being less reliable than many of their rivals).
I agree it's an unintuitive device
I tried one in PCW a few weeks back. It's so difficult to use I could not get it out of the music player application it appeared to be stuck in, nor could i turn it off and on to see if that fixed things.
The advanatge of e-ink
The advantage of e-ink is not necessarily the battery life - though that does help, but the fact that you can quite happily read one with tired eyes, or for long periods of time, some thing LEDs prevent.
Same for me
I initially entered the Sonos world when the new hand controller came out and Richer Sounds panicked, selling the ZP100/ZP120/Old controller set at knock down prices (well 25% off). Never regretted it (was also looking at a squeezebox system at the time). Since then added a S5 when it came out and now a Play 3 for moving around where needed (Richer Sounds did a 20% off weekend a few weeks back).
As to those who those who rate the Logitech system higher - it's a nice system (or at least was - have Logitech dropped most of it now), cheaper, but limited by the range of your wireless router, not the nearest device in the same network, and does not do true zone linking. Also you're not reliant on dedicated software on a PC or flakey versions on a NAS to access your music, Sonos will work with CIFS, SMB, and DNLA.
To those who think the Play3 is a mono device - it's not, but if you have two then you can configure them so they act as a left or right speaker in a pair.
I do agree Sonos can be expensive, but there can also be some good deals out there. Also if you have an android or iOS device then you do not need an expensive Sonos controller or a PC/MAC to run the system.
or
You could get a Sonos ZP120 zone player and plug a pair of speakers in to that. Note the Play 3 is a stereo player, it's just that Sonos give you the functionality to use a pair as if they were left/right speakers.
The usual laptop consumable at a guess ...
Do Apple batteries actually last 18 months, or are they like most other laptop batteries - using the computer plugged in and about 6-12 months the battery is dead ?
Not in teh UK
I'm presently looking at the Valve Steam store (11:40 Saturday the 17th) and the only free things are demos and extras. The game is still £14.99.
Local playback
DId I understand that correctly, it can play music/videos on the phone from other devices ? (i.e. a NAS). If so does it use it's own video codecs, or just the ones default on android ?
@ DrXym
Actually the publishers are now holding Amazon to ransom with pricing - refusing to supply any books unless Amazon sell at their chosen prices - it's the Net book agreement all over again. Amazon have taken the cartel of four to the Euro courts.
What you want
is a rather useful piece of software called Calibre. Unless you want to break DRM with your conversions as they have stated their software will never be programmed to allow you to do it.
I wonder ....
If this is more to do with the fact that Sony have announced they are going to open their own book store, and thus take sales away from Waterstones, rather than trying to rival Amazon and Barnes & Noble.
Now all gone
so never even got a chance to see what the postage would have been.
Did they have more than just 1 in stock ?
Big joke, at £89 it's worth a punt, however every one else seemed to think so. Managed to get one in my basket and it stayed there right until I went to pay for it, then it vanished.
Does feel like they only had a few and this was a con to just get more punters through the website. Poor till system as well if it doesn't put a temporary reserve your chosen item(s) so you can actually complete the purchase.
Assuming EA still have the source code
If EA still have the code then you do have a valid argument, but if not, then they're not losing money through the site in the main topic. And trust me old titles do get deleted - I know from direct contact that Ubisoft deleted most the back catalogue of Blue Byte Games (I was trying to track down a replacement copy of Historyline 1914-18 for the PC and approached them to find out where I could get/buy a copy from) and the same could be possible for the Bullfrog titles.
@SP
Totally agree with you, but people (like us) who think like that are still more likely to be going for some thing more flexible and physically stronger than base level bodies ;) Having said that I still do miss my D70 from time to time, but then the low end cameras from back then (EOS 300D and D70) would now be considered mid to upper consumer range).
Huh ?
And Nikon don't ? - I seem to remember the last Nikon without internal screw control was phased out a few years back and it did not stop you using top end glass, just the auto-focus functionality. And let's be serious here, who's going to decide to buy a low end body and then buy several thousand pounds of glass. If they can afford the lenses and want to buy them, then spending £500 more on a high end body would not be an issue.
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