Eclipse being one of the major ones I use. Unfortunately it's fits right in there under "sloth". I have yet to see a major java client app that is all of nimble, usable and and attractive. And as for in-browser applets, and corporate in-house monstrosities - they are just invariably shit.
Blame the developers? If a platform can't deliver the facilities to enable developers to deliver responsive, attractive apps on schedule - that's a problem with the platform much more than the developers. Unless one thinks the very act of learning java puts one in a creative straitjacket ;-)
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Eclipse being one of the major ones I use. Unfortunately it's fits right in there under "sloth". I have yet to see a major java client app that is all of nimble, usable and and attractive. And as for in-browser applets, and corporate in-house monstrosities - they are just invariably shit.
Blame the developers? If a platform can't deliver the facilities to enable developers to deliver responsive, attractive apps on schedule - that's a problem with the platform much more than the developers. Unless one thinks the very act of learning java puts one in a creative straitjacket ;-)