A dedicated iPhone hacker has ported a client for Adobe's Flash onto an iPhone 4, just about, and with a dicey installation process.
The hack can only be applied to a Jailbroken iPhone 4, though the developer reckons it will run on an 3GS and an iPad. But if you've got the hardware and the nerve then you're only eight steps away …
I think the issue is related to standard free market arguments; Adobe have set themselves up as the single vendor of Flash implementations when they seem barely able to support all of the desktop platforms - the OS X plug-in is slow like treacle and crashes a lot, the Linux client is probably both of those things but it's also out of date and poorly supported.
With HTML5/canvas/etc, the standards are open and are being separately implemented by at least four teams at some of the world's leading software companies. The weekly stories about the new fastest JavaScript engine are the result and IE9 is about to up the ante on hardware rendering of interactive content within the browser.
In this area, open standards are very obviously benefitting the consumer compared to the closed alternative. What a lot of us are looking forward to is when the open standard stuff is sufficiently ubiquitous that the rich media doesn't just run, but it runs well, everywhere.
For what Flash does within a browser environment and developers ask of it...it's not that bad, I don't consider it a resource hog or unusable and use Linux; the supposed Flash dog. Have you ever tried off-roading in a Mini? I'd take a land Rover any day and sacrifice a bit of mileage. For a whole pages worth of useless effects, Flash seems to work a heck of a lot better than Script and also simpler to implement in 99% cases.
That said, I used to use Flash, now use Script. Flash isn't bad, it isn't great, much like *insert your countries Prime Minister/Warlord here*. The only thing Adobe needs is a big gay mascot like Steve Jobs or Sponge Bob Square Pants to gain support from a lot of these "haters"
Pretty lame comment about earning respect through owning an iPhone
do you trully believe that ??!
you must be a pretty thick individual, or you just haven't got true friends.
as for Flash .... I have to say, I have not needed it since owning an iphone, at least not on the phone, fair enough, I don't do flash games or other, but I just never had this moment "shit ! no flash !!" , perhaps Apple has conditioned me !!
and ... where is the Jailbreak for iphone 4 please !!! :D (I DO miss mame !!!)
this is a story about flash on iphone. got nothing to do with android. and most iphone users dont care about flash. most dont even want them. but those who wants, nobody's stopping ya. the article also says apple dont cover any warranty claims for any damage resulting from the use.
You can buy phones that let you choose to run some software - flash being an example - you can buy phones that don't. Personally I like playing Flash games on Facebook, I need a physical keyboard and I like as much control as possible, so I bought a Nokia N900. Runs a form of Debian.
I don't understand how choice translates into hate or love, or why people get so wound up about these things. It doesn't say much about the objectivity of the readership, their ability to form opinions or their capability to have a technical discussion. Not that there's many erudite articles about technology on elreg.
Can we all agree that the bottom line for ANY company is to make money, Apple have reasons for doing what they do (which in some way will come back to make a profit) and we (consumers) like it or not (and buy it or not)... simple. I hope everyone is happy with their choice of phone.
Personally I still look at the internet most on my laptop as my eyes and fingers are still human size.
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A dedicated iPhone hacker has ported a client for Adobe's Flash onto an iPhone 4, just about, and with a dicey installation process. The hack can only be applied to a Jailbroken iPhone 4, though the developer reckons it will run on an 3GS and an iPad. But if you've got the hardware and the nerve then you're only eight steps away …
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I think the issue is related to standard free market arguments; Adobe have set themselves up as the single vendor of Flash implementations when they seem barely able to support all of the desktop platforms - the OS X plug-in is slow like treacle and crashes a lot, the Linux client is probably both of those things but it's also out of date and poorly supported.
With HTML5/canvas/etc, the standards are open and are being separately implemented by at least four teams at some of the world's leading software companies. The weekly stories about the new fastest JavaScript engine are the result and IE9 is about to up the ante on hardware rendering of interactive content within the browser.
In this area, open standards are very obviously benefitting the consumer compared to the closed alternative. What a lot of us are looking forward to is when the open standard stuff is sufficiently ubiquitous that the rich media doesn't just run, but it runs well, everywhere.
@dave 46
Why would an iPhone get my friends "respect" ?
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You need perspective
For what Flash does within a browser environment and developers ask of it...it's not that bad, I don't consider it a resource hog or unusable and use Linux; the supposed Flash dog. Have you ever tried off-roading in a Mini? I'd take a land Rover any day and sacrifice a bit of mileage. For a whole pages worth of useless effects, Flash seems to work a heck of a lot better than Script and also simpler to implement in 99% cases.
That said, I used to use Flash, now use Script. Flash isn't bad, it isn't great, much like *insert your countries Prime Minister/Warlord here*. The only thing Adobe needs is a big gay mascot like Steve Jobs or Sponge Bob Square Pants to gain support from a lot of these "haters"
@dave 46 bis
Pretty lame comment about earning respect through owning an iPhone
do you trully believe that ??!
you must be a pretty thick individual, or you just haven't got true friends.
as for Flash .... I have to say, I have not needed it since owning an iphone, at least not on the phone, fair enough, I don't do flash games or other, but I just never had this moment "shit ! no flash !!" , perhaps Apple has conditioned me !!
and ... where is the Jailbreak for iphone 4 please !!! :D (I DO miss mame !!!)
wait!
this is a story about flash on iphone. got nothing to do with android. and most iphone users dont care about flash. most dont even want them. but those who wants, nobody's stopping ya. the article also says apple dont cover any warranty claims for any damage resulting from the use.
Whinging about Flash ads?
You ain't seen nothing yet. When HTML5 takes off you won't be able to simply block flash to hide from ads anymore.
Apple is working on built-in ads aren't they? Lucky old iPhone users, rescued from non-Apple-sanctioned adverts.
All a bit pathetic. really
You can buy phones that let you choose to run some software - flash being an example - you can buy phones that don't. Personally I like playing Flash games on Facebook, I need a physical keyboard and I like as much control as possible, so I bought a Nokia N900. Runs a form of Debian.
I don't understand how choice translates into hate or love, or why people get so wound up about these things. It doesn't say much about the objectivity of the readership, their ability to form opinions or their capability to have a technical discussion. Not that there's many erudite articles about technology on elreg.
iphone owner here
Can we all agree that the bottom line for ANY company is to make money, Apple have reasons for doing what they do (which in some way will come back to make a profit) and we (consumers) like it or not (and buy it or not)... simple. I hope everyone is happy with their choice of phone.
Personally I still look at the internet most on my laptop as my eyes and fingers are still human size.
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