What's the difference between an iPod and an iPood?
The iPood, a small spade used by Aussie campers to bury their shit, has a new name following an intervention by Apple lawyers.
In a letter to the iPood makers, Apple's legal eagles said: "iPood is clearly similar to Apple's iPod, there being merely a single letter difference."
That could have been worded better, don't you …
I can see the use of storing toilet paper and hand sanitizer in the handle, but a lighter? Is that in case it's a false alarm and you need to leave no trace of methane?
.. the other way round. The iPood works - simple clean design (at least if you wash it after digging holes in the peat in remoter parts of Scotland). You don't need to hold it in an unusual way or get bits of insulating material to get it too work.
So, I rather think that the iPood manufacturers would want to distance themselves from the manufacturers of second rate badly designed equipment such as Apple.
I always thought that you register a trademark in a specific market (eg consumer electronics), which means that it can happily coexist with products with the same name in a different market (eg fecal waste management ;).
Based on that interpretation, I'd say that apple has no legal basis for demanding this name change, so most likely they shoveled a lot of money to this company to get them to change their name voluntary.
...and in this instance the name isn't even identical. Problems can only arise if passing off is alleged or the similarlity in the two names can be shown to cause confusion.
Maybe then, that is the point and this is an admission by Apple: their products are already associated with shit, and as such the iPood could create confusion by being another shit-related device?
Some users have reported a problem with the iFirst. This is purely the fault of the reader, not the producer of the iFirst. However, in the unlikely event that you are one of the few multiply-challenged and inferior people with problems with the iFirst, you can apply for a cheap piece of plastic to attach to the outside, ribbed for your pleasure. Normal RRP £39.99
I was involved in the startup of the Danish IP company Tpack - which specializes in the convergence of *T*elco and *PACK*et-based networks, hence the name. Initially the tpack.com domain name was owned by (if I remember correctly) a courier service in Texas, so we made do with the tpack.net domain (I see now that the .com domain has been acquired by my old company, though). So far so good - but after the first round of funding, and after the company had started to tour the trade shows etc. and the name was hence getting recognized by our target customers, our board and management was horrified when they found *this* on the interwebs - http://www.ortlieb.co.uk/product_info.php?pName=tpack-toilet-roll-holder.
Equipment maker "Krug" is now called "Kriega" after fizzy-pop maker "Krug" had a moan. I am not the sharpest knife in the drawer, but I do know that fizzy-pop and backpacks are not the same thing.
Perhaps "iPood" should have been renamed "iJobbied"?
Who knew that one day 'Caterpillar' would not mean big digging machines & co., but trendy boots and clothing for young people who wouldn't be able to lift a poo trowel, let alone a shovel. Same with Krug. Companies can drift from their niche to others.
Just because a company may one day move into another industry doesn't mean they get automatic rights to names across all industries. Just because Mitsubishi owns a trademark on the name "Triton" doesn't mean other companies can't use the name for non-vehicle use... Magellan make a GPS called Triton for example.
if I wanted to to sell t-shirts with 'i like to club seals to death, wipe my arse with the warm pelt, then grind up the cute little carcasses and wear their heads as a hat' written across them, would apple sue me? the statement is plenty more offensive and just as tenuous a link to apple products...
ipood - has a direct and obvious link to the tool and its use
ipod - well, whatever that is, is anyones guess....
You are a little late there mate, iSight is already an Apple product, or correctly is a discontinued product. Nice try though. I see you have a reserved seat on the fail bus. Have a nice trip.
I mean, you would never catch Apple using a name which is already associated with another well established brand or company operating in another industry would you?
I do get sick of big companies using the threat of an expensive frivolous lawsuit to bully the little guys. Surely the blatant use of the civil courts in this way (even just waving about the threat of frivolous action) should be considered contempt of the country's court systems and open to criminal prosecution of the bullies and their lawyers by the state under the appropriate criminal laws dealing with such.
Although Apple does it best to bury any bad news about the iPod, it does not use the iPood to do that, it just uses the clueless media to do that for them.
...iPooh'd? That makes it sort of an "action" comment ( "Oh no, I poohed", said the embarassed puppy). Since "pooh" is a legitimate word (I think) The Sacred J can't complain. Looks like vanity car tag too.
What's the difference between an iPod and an iPood?
The iPood, a small spade used by Aussie campers to bury their shit, has a new name following an intervention by Apple lawyers. In a letter to the iPood makers, Apple's legal eagles said: "iPood is clearly similar to Apple's iPod, there being merely a single letter difference." That could have been worded better, don't you …
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Posted Thursday 22nd July 2010 12:12 GMT
M7S
Bipod #
Now let's see the response the lawyers get from any sharpshooters they write to.
Mine's the ghillie suit.
Posted Friday 23rd July 2010 17:07 GMT
Tarquin ftlb
How much difference is enough? #
iPoop? 2 letters
iPlop? etc.
We should be told the "rules"!
Posted Thursday 22nd July 2010 12:12 GMT
Bear Features
so... #
Do you have to hold it in a certain way in order to make it work properly? Just wondering.
Posted Thursday 22nd July 2010 12:13 GMT
JaitcH
The Kettle calling the Pot black #
Those Apple lawyers are dumb.
The only connection between the two is one product id shite, whilst the other helps dispose of it.
This should really boost iPood sales!
Posted Thursday 22nd July 2010 12:13 GMT
Obviously!
Apple down own the letter i #
Are apple gonna argue that anything with i in front is their property?
W*nkers!
Posted Thursday 22nd July 2010 12:13 GMT
Anonymous Coward
lol #
The difference between a trowel and an iPod? 1 letter says Apple's lawyers.
Well goody that'll save me £200.
Posted Thursday 22nd July 2010 12:13 GMT
John I'm only dancing
To answer the question, a few hundred millions in development costs #
Why could the Aussies have called it the iShat?
Just think about all the turdspurt © their PR company could spew forth to generate sales
Posted Friday 23rd July 2010 06:36 GMT
Captain DaFt
They missed a trick there #
If it'd been me, I'd have asked them if they preferred that I call it the iPood or the S-jobs?
(Think about it.... ) Go icon because, well, when you gotta go, you gotta go!
Posted Thursday 22nd July 2010 12:13 GMT
Dex
I smell bullsh.... #
....Mine's the one with the poop-a-scoop in.
Posted Thursday 22nd July 2010 12:13 GMT
Anonymous Coward
Well #
I loooled when I read this
Posted Thursday 22nd July 2010 12:13 GMT
TRT
Hollow handle #
I can see the use of storing toilet paper and hand sanitizer in the handle, but a lighter? Is that in case it's a false alarm and you need to leave no trace of methane?
Posted Thursday 22nd July 2010 13:04 GMT
Cornholio
@TRT Hollow handle #
The lighter is to burn the TP. There's a lot to consider when taking a dump in the wilderness.
I've always been a great fan of the name and think it's a real shame that they're submitting to Apple's will.
Posted Thursday 22nd July 2010 12:13 GMT
Micky 1
This is rediculous #
in fact it's worse...it's recockulous...
iPood is a fantastic name that makes me giggle. Good on the Aussies and shame on Apple for yet again spoiling a great idea...
We should all start thinking of better names than the pocket trowl...Dung Dumper is better but it's not a patch of iPood....*giggles*
Posted Thursday 22nd July 2010 12:13 GMT
James 5
No - I think it's actually... #
.. the other way round. The iPood works - simple clean design (at least if you wash it after digging holes in the peat in remoter parts of Scotland). You don't need to hold it in an unusual way or get bits of insulating material to get it too work.
So, I rather think that the iPood manufacturers would want to distance themselves from the manufacturers of second rate badly designed equipment such as Apple.
Posted Thursday 22nd July 2010 21:05 GMT
mky
youPood #
Think you are confusing the iphone with the ipod. Somehow i'm not surprised.
Posted Thursday 22nd July 2010 12:14 GMT
Avalanche
Blanket trademark? #
I always thought that you register a trademark in a specific market (eg consumer electronics), which means that it can happily coexist with products with the same name in a different market (eg fecal waste management ;).
Based on that interpretation, I'd say that apple has no legal basis for demanding this name change, so most likely they shoveled a lot of money to this company to get them to change their name voluntary.
Posted Thursday 22nd July 2010 12:19 GMT
Raumkraut
Easy come, easy go #
More likely they threatened them with an expensive (albeit frivolous) legal case.
Posted Thursday 22nd July 2010 13:12 GMT
the spectacularly refined chap
I thoguht exactly the same... #
...and in this instance the name isn't even identical. Problems can only arise if passing off is alleged or the similarlity in the two names can be shown to cause confusion.
Maybe then, that is the point and this is an admission by Apple: their products are already associated with shit, and as such the iPood could create confusion by being another shit-related device?
Posted Thursday 22nd July 2010 12:14 GMT
Stephen Roberts 2
It'll never catch on... #
It's not expensive enough and it doesn't come in white.
Posted Thursday 22nd July 2010 12:14 GMT
Stephen Roberts 2
It'll never catch on Post Script #
iFirst? (if so, it's never happened before)
Posted Thursday 22nd July 2010 13:04 GMT
Stephen Roberts 2
pps #
Some users have reported a problem with the iFirst. This is purely the fault of the reader, not the producer of the iFirst. However, in the unlikely event that you are one of the few multiply-challenged and inferior people with problems with the iFirst, you can apply for a cheap piece of plastic to attach to the outside, ribbed for your pleasure. Normal RRP £39.99
Coming soon:
iSight
iGlasses
iSpy
iCycle
iCeberg
Should we takeover iWantOneOfThose?
Posted Thursday 22nd July 2010 12:14 GMT
John Mangan
"That could have been worded better, don't you think?" #
You know, I'm not entirely sure it could.
Posted Thursday 22nd July 2010 12:19 GMT
Anonymous Coward
Another camping-related naming ... incident #
I was involved in the startup of the Danish IP company Tpack - which specializes in the convergence of *T*elco and *PACK*et-based networks, hence the name. Initially the tpack.com domain name was owned by (if I remember correctly) a courier service in Texas, so we made do with the tpack.net domain (I see now that the .com domain has been acquired by my old company, though). So far so good - but after the first round of funding, and after the company had started to tour the trade shows etc. and the name was hence getting recognized by our target customers, our board and management was horrified when they found *this* on the interwebs - http://www.ortlieb.co.uk/product_info.php?pName=tpack-toilet-roll-holder.
Posted Thursday 22nd July 2010 12:19 GMT
Raumkraut
Baseless legal threats #
There is absolutely no way this could be trademark infringement, unless Apple's "iPod" mark also covers the "shit shovelling" industry,
Oh, wait...
Posted Thursday 22nd July 2010 13:04 GMT
Anonymous Coward
iShit? #
On the other hand, that is probably already trademarked by Apple
Posted Thursday 22nd July 2010 13:11 GMT
The BigYin
Backpacks #
Equipment maker "Krug" is now called "Kriega" after fizzy-pop maker "Krug" had a moan. I am not the sharpest knife in the drawer, but I do know that fizzy-pop and backpacks are not the same thing.
Perhaps "iPood" should have been renamed "iJobbied"?
Posted Thursday 22nd July 2010 14:08 GMT
Anonymous Coward
or... #
"The Jobs Disposer"
Posted Thursday 22nd July 2010 21:57 GMT
Hollerith 1
Caterpillar #
Who knew that one day 'Caterpillar' would not mean big digging machines & co., but trendy boots and clothing for young people who wouldn't be able to lift a poo trowel, let alone a shovel. Same with Krug. Companies can drift from their niche to others.
Posted Friday 23rd July 2010 11:04 GMT
Tim Bates
Re: Cat #
Just because a company may one day move into another industry doesn't mean they get automatic rights to names across all industries. Just because Mitsubishi owns a trademark on the name "Triton" doesn't mean other companies can't use the name for non-vehicle use... Magellan make a GPS called Triton for example.
Posted Thursday 22nd July 2010 13:11 GMT
Matt 13
vacuum #
do apple own the letter 'I'??
if I wanted to to sell t-shirts with 'i like to club seals to death, wipe my arse with the warm pelt, then grind up the cute little carcasses and wear their heads as a hat' written across them, would apple sue me? the statement is plenty more offensive and just as tenuous a link to apple products...
ipood - has a direct and obvious link to the tool and its use
ipod - well, whatever that is, is anyones guess....
big, bully boy apple...
Posted Thursday 22nd July 2010 13:12 GMT
James Hughes 1
First registered in Oz in 2006.. #
So, really, Apple are infringing on THEIR trademark......after all, the iPod is only one letter less than the original product.
Methinks some money changed hands in the Oz direction here.....
Posted Thursday 22nd July 2010 15:24 GMT
caffeine addict
this is a title #
Not really, seeing as how the iPod turned up in 2001...
Posted Thursday 22nd July 2010 13:33 GMT
strangefish
if they wanted #
to take advantage of the publicity I would think any name with "jobs" in the title would have been a good first alternate
Posted Thursday 22nd July 2010 13:38 GMT
Doug Glass
Looks Like ... #
... a external antenna for an iPhone to me. May not work very well but then neither does the original.
Posted Thursday 22nd July 2010 14:07 GMT
fLaMePrOoF
Perhaps... #
Apple should have bought into iPood instead of demanding the name change, it might have helped them get their shit together!
Posted Thursday 22nd July 2010 21:05 GMT
LaeMing
T-shirts abound #
A google images search on 'ipood' is worth it.
Posted Thursday 22nd July 2010 21:05 GMT
mky
@Stephen Roberts #
You are a little late there mate, iSight is already an Apple product, or correctly is a discontinued product. Nice try though. I see you have a reserved seat on the fail bus. Have a nice trip.
Posted Thursday 22nd July 2010 21:05 GMT
Thad
I do believe that #
Some posters are getting Apple's IPod confused with another of their products. the iPoon.
I don't think there is any need to loose fingers before operating an ipod.
Posted Thursday 22nd July 2010 21:05 GMT
Tatsky
Fair play to apple.... #
I mean, you would never catch Apple using a name which is already associated with another well established brand or company operating in another industry would you?
Oh. Hang on!
Posted Thursday 22nd July 2010 21:06 GMT
LaeMing
Contempt #
I do get sick of big companies using the threat of an expensive frivolous lawsuit to bully the little guys. Surely the blatant use of the civil courts in this way (even just waving about the threat of frivolous action) should be considered contempt of the country's court systems and open to criminal prosecution of the bullies and their lawyers by the state under the appropriate criminal laws dealing with such.
Posted Friday 23rd July 2010 06:37 GMT
Aussie Brusader
Title #
It's available in the same colours, all that's missing is the white cable to hang it by...
Will have to go get one before the current labelled stock sells out... :-)
Posted Friday 23rd July 2010 11:05 GMT
Anonymous Coward
i-mperfect #
i-diot.
No icon since Apple lawyers have claimed i-con.
Posted Friday 23rd July 2010 11:09 GMT
Anonymous Coward
This is utter crap. #
iPood a trowel, so free to call it what you want. You could call is a BigMac and there is bugger all McDF's called do about it.
AND
iPAQ...yes that invention by Compaq.
A tablet style pc made long, long before the iPAD, one letter difference.
Trouble they company got scared instead of checking with their lawyers.
I would of sent a lett like so.
Dear Apple Trolls, sorry laywers.
With depest respect, **** off.
Yours sincerly, iPood makers.
Posted Tuesday 27th July 2010 16:58 GMT
steogede
Shame that Apple actually own the iPod trademark #
When there are so many other trademarks Apple use but don't own - such as [iI]OS and iPhone (both owned and licensed from Cisco)
Posted Friday 23rd July 2010 12:56 GMT
proto-robbie
uPood #
iSood
Posted Friday 23rd July 2010 14:37 GMT
Brent Longborough
Gotta have that Name #
Obviously Apple wants the "Ipood" name for their new antenna technology...
Posted Wednesday 28th July 2010 09:09 GMT
Anonymous Coward
The Difference. #
the iPood - used to bury your crap.
the iPod - crap
Although Apple does it best to bury any bad news about the iPod, it does not use the iPood to do that, it just uses the clueless media to do that for them.
Posted Wednesday 28th July 2010 10:59 GMT
Doug Glass
Why not rename it ... #
...iPooh'd? That makes it sort of an "action" comment ( "Oh no, I poohed", said the embarassed puppy). Since "pooh" is a legitimate word (I think) The Sacred J can't complain. Looks like vanity car tag too.
Posted Wednesday 28th July 2010 20:18 GMT
Stuart Halliday
Let's go into dreamland #
Wouldn't it be so ironic if the Beatles changed their minds and decided to sue Apple for using their Music label name?
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