I've seen the original Vivaz - reviewed here - and found it to be a bit of a curate's egg: good in parts, though I forgave its quirks in favour of its stylish look and quality camera.
Sony Ericsson Vivaz Pro Sony Ericsson's Vivaz Pro: eye-catching and comfortable in the hand
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If they had put Android in there they would have needed a much faster processor and much more RAM, just to make that dog of an OS run even slightly smoothly. The phone would have cost 600 instead of 350. This is what you get for 350 these days, at least until Symbian^3 hits the market. Symbian is the only low end OS in town unless you are Samsung (and you have BADA)
What's wrong with Resistive touch? At least with that, when you use something pointy like a fingernail or a stylus you know exactly where you're touching. On a tiny screen I thought that would be more useful than munging at links with a blunt finger?
Why? Why anyone would still consider something like that is beyond me. This must be really aimed at anyone who isn't in touch with the market...
If you want to go to a multifunction phone with touch you really need capacitive as a bare minimum, but also at the bottom end RIM (if just email and a bit of browsing is your thing) but want anything more than the only real choices are iPhone or Android based (but again watch out for buying the right hardware...).....
Cant say I have ever had a problem with resistive touch screens. Im a multi function user. android doesnt work with a lot of bluetooth hardware and you are at odds to find 1) a phone that has what you want and 2) a manufacturer that offers android upgrades from 1.6 (for instance). Iphones are just laughable for business. Business contracts on iphones were a joke when we did out refresh last year.
We ended up with 20 omnias - fantatsic phones that do everything we wanted.
I don't think you mean it was a bit of a curate's egg. A bad egg is inedible, despite any good bits. The curate's a sycophant, trying to appease the bishop by saying parts of his bad egg are excellent. So, unless you mean this phone is totally rubbish with no redeeming features you've used the wrong phrase there... </pedant>
but the curate assured the bishop that parts of his were excellent. Although the curate was merely being sycophantic (a bad egg can have no good parts), the phrase "curate's egg" has fallen into (un?)common usage to apply to anything that, whilst rubbish, has some redeeming qualities.
In this case, the phone is not a good one, in spite of some good features (camera, keyboard).
Yes the curate is being a sycophant in trying not to appear critical of the bishop. He sought to make out that the egg was some balance of good and bad when the fact is that if the egg is not all good then it is entirely inedible. The point is that the good parts could not redeem the bad egg. This may be what the writer was trying to put across; that the entire phone is bad because not all of it is good. That is surely a truism in the ultra competitive smart phone market. On the other hand it could just be lazy use of metaphor.
Oh noes. I used 'metaphor' and 'truism' in a post about pedantry. That's not going to go so well.
Because we aren't all the same and some people prefer resistive to capacitive. I know it is difficult to comprehend that there may be people out there with different preferences and different usage requirements to you but that's the way it is. Viva la difference!
I'm stunned that Sony still hasn't caught up yet. The one company that has the potential to truly rival - and beat - Apple in this sphere just isn't bringing up the goods. Perhaps it's time to ditch this Ericsson venture and go it alone? At least for the smart phone sphere.
Sony have some fantastic industrial designers and brands (PlayStation) they could leverage to produce a true prestige product. If only they'd get their bloody act together.
Don't knock resistive screens. Along with a stylus they're perfect for scribbling down the shopping list. And which of the smart phones is still going strong in the marketplace after 18 months? None other than the Nokia 5800 with its resistive screen.
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I've seen the original Vivaz - reviewed here - and found it to be a bit of a curate's egg: good in parts, though I forgave its quirks in favour of its stylish look and quality camera. Sony Ericsson Vivaz Pro Sony Ericsson's Vivaz Pro: eye-catching and comfortable in the hand Now comes the Vivaz Pro, aimed, as the name …
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Posted Friday 9th July 2010 07:30 GMT
[Yamthief]
Why?... #
Why are manufacturers still using resistive touch screens?! And why Symbian? Yet another Sony Ericsson phone which will fade in to nothingness.
Just think of the posibilities if they'd put a capacitive touch screen and Android on there?
Posted Friday 9th July 2010 11:21 GMT
Anonymous Coward
Android?? #
If they had put Android in there they would have needed a much faster processor and much more RAM, just to make that dog of an OS run even slightly smoothly. The phone would have cost 600 instead of 350. This is what you get for 350 these days, at least until Symbian^3 hits the market. Symbian is the only low end OS in town unless you are Samsung (and you have BADA)
Posted Friday 9th July 2010 08:42 GMT
Michael Kean
Resistive touh... #
What's wrong with Resistive touch? At least with that, when you use something pointy like a fingernail or a stylus you know exactly where you're touching. On a tiny screen I thought that would be more useful than munging at links with a blunt finger?
Posted Sunday 11th July 2010 17:43 GMT
Giles Jones
Simple! #
Resistive wears out, resistive gets scuffed, resistive requires a stupid stylus, resistive doesn't do multitouch well.
It's out of date touchscreen technology that belongs in the 90s and 00s.
Posted Friday 9th July 2010 08:42 GMT
Jean-Paul
I agree #
Why? Why anyone would still consider something like that is beyond me. This must be really aimed at anyone who isn't in touch with the market...
If you want to go to a multifunction phone with touch you really need capacitive as a bare minimum, but also at the bottom end RIM (if just email and a bit of browsing is your thing) but want anything more than the only real choices are iPhone or Android based (but again watch out for buying the right hardware...).....
Posted Friday 9th July 2010 14:31 GMT
Danny 14
not really true #
Cant say I have ever had a problem with resistive touch screens. Im a multi function user. android doesnt work with a lot of bluetooth hardware and you are at odds to find 1) a phone that has what you want and 2) a manufacturer that offers android upgrades from 1.6 (for instance). Iphones are just laughable for business. Business contracts on iphones were a joke when we did out refresh last year.
We ended up with 20 omnias - fantatsic phones that do everything we wanted.
Posted Sunday 11th July 2010 08:21 GMT
Anonymous Coward
omnias #
Omnias - fantastic? Blimey.
I never thought I would hear those words in the same sentence.
Oh well - each to their own I suppose.
Posted Friday 9th July 2010 08:42 GMT
sabroni
Curates egg #
I don't think you mean it was a bit of a curate's egg. A bad egg is inedible, despite any good bits. The curate's a sycophant, trying to appease the bishop by saying parts of his bad egg are excellent. So, unless you mean this phone is totally rubbish with no redeeming features you've used the wrong phrase there... </pedant>
Posted Friday 9th July 2010 11:21 GMT
Lamont Cranston
Yes, a bad egg is entirely inedible, #
but the curate assured the bishop that parts of his were excellent. Although the curate was merely being sycophantic (a bad egg can have no good parts), the phrase "curate's egg" has fallen into (un?)common usage to apply to anything that, whilst rubbish, has some redeeming qualities.
In this case, the phone is not a good one, in spite of some good features (camera, keyboard).
Tsk.
Posted Friday 9th July 2010 11:22 GMT
Magnus_Pym
@saboni #
Yes the curate is being a sycophant in trying not to appear critical of the bishop. He sought to make out that the egg was some balance of good and bad when the fact is that if the egg is not all good then it is entirely inedible. The point is that the good parts could not redeem the bad egg. This may be what the writer was trying to put across; that the entire phone is bad because not all of it is good. That is surely a truism in the ultra competitive smart phone market. On the other hand it could just be lazy use of metaphor.
Oh noes. I used 'metaphor' and 'truism' in a post about pedantry. That's not going to go so well.
Posted Friday 9th July 2010 08:42 GMT
Bassey
Re: Why? #
Because we aren't all the same and some people prefer resistive to capacitive. I know it is difficult to comprehend that there may be people out there with different preferences and different usage requirements to you but that's the way it is. Viva la difference!
Posted Friday 9th July 2010 11:22 GMT
Anonymous Coward
omfg #
what a pile of complete cr4p, i cannot imagine how sony can think that this product would make us change from iPhone / driod phones.
unless its going to be given away free in a packet of cornflakes.
fail ^ 10 since an ordinary fail cannot describe this phone correctly.
Posted Friday 9th July 2010 15:38 GMT
Bob Terwilliger
Burn the witch! #
Is it worth getting that frothy at a phone?
really?
Posted Sunday 11th July 2010 08:21 GMT
Jason Hall
frothy #
Welcome to the internets, you must be new here.
If you aren't shouting about your favourite manufacturer/OS and screaming about how bad the opposition are then you're no-one. :)
Posted Friday 9th July 2010 12:42 GMT
behzad
When will Sony gets its act together? #
I'm stunned that Sony still hasn't caught up yet. The one company that has the potential to truly rival - and beat - Apple in this sphere just isn't bringing up the goods. Perhaps it's time to ditch this Ericsson venture and go it alone? At least for the smart phone sphere.
Sony have some fantastic industrial designers and brands (PlayStation) they could leverage to produce a true prestige product. If only they'd get their bloody act together.
Posted Sunday 11th July 2010 13:11 GMT
Brum7
Resistive screen #
Don't knock resistive screens. Along with a stylus they're perfect for scribbling down the shopping list. And which of the smart phones is still going strong in the marketplace after 18 months? None other than the Nokia 5800 with its resistive screen.
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