Kyocera Mita makes a range of laser printers and multi-functionals from personal one-per-desk models right up to big-league machines that can handle small-run production print jobs. The FS-2020D is a ‘team’ printer, so medium-size groups of workers are the users it's been developed for. There are a few things it needs to do to …
Shame on El Reg for not even commenting on the "counterfeit cartridges" claim. If the printer manufacturers put half as much effort into making all of their cartridges to a common standard, as they currently put into deliberatly making them non-standard, then the world would be a better place for all.
Of course different companies make their toner to different standards, but at the moment we have no way to compare - if everyone used standard cartridges, then they might actually have to compete on quality.
We sell Kyocera printers to some of our larger clients, and while they start crying for maintainance kit after 300.000 pages, they keep working (I know one FS-1920 is at 440.000 pages now, and there's another above 400.000). The maintainance kits for these are around 500€. I don't see the kits for 2020D yet, but I'd imagine they cost about the same, so it's probably better to buy a new printer once the old one stops working (and that means actually stops working, not just crying that it wants MK).
Not sure what you mean by a common standard. The cartridge is an integral part of a printer's mechanism, so if you're advocating a single cartridge which can fit a number of different models from different makers, you're crying in the wind. The print engine is what differentiates between makes and that design freedom is heavily guarded by manufacturers.
There's often some commonality between models in a single manufacturer's range, though, and that was why we picked out the fact that Kyocera Mita was deliberately making them different, to make it harder for counterfeiters.
Register
Kyocera Mita FS-2020D
Kyocera Mita makes a range of laser printers and multi-functionals from personal one-per-desk models right up to big-league machines that can handle small-run production print jobs. The FS-2020D is a ‘team’ printer, so medium-size groups of workers are the users it's been developed for. There are a few things it needs to do to …
This topic is closed for new posts.
Posted Monday 27th April 2009 09:37 GMT
Tim
Costs #
Out of curiosity, how much is a new drum, if the old one should happen to fail after 3 yrs& a month?
Tim#3
Posted Monday 27th April 2009 09:37 GMT
TeeCee
Advertising #
There's an ad next to this article that says "Follow Reg Hardware on Twitter".
Et tu Brute?
Posted Monday 27th April 2009 20:01 GMT
Sam
Destruction testing #
Is it Gordon Brown proof?
Posted Monday 27th April 2009 20:01 GMT
Dave
counterfeit cartridges #
Shame on El Reg for not even commenting on the "counterfeit cartridges" claim. If the printer manufacturers put half as much effort into making all of their cartridges to a common standard, as they currently put into deliberatly making them non-standard, then the world would be a better place for all.
Of course different companies make their toner to different standards, but at the moment we have no way to compare - if everyone used standard cartridges, then they might actually have to compete on quality.
Posted Monday 27th April 2009 20:01 GMT
Adam White
Looks cheap and nasty #
I wonder if I can still get consumables for an old Kyocera FS-3750, those things we built like a tank.
Posted Monday 27th April 2009 20:01 GMT
Anonymous Coward
Re: costs #
We sell Kyocera printers to some of our larger clients, and while they start crying for maintainance kit after 300.000 pages, they keep working (I know one FS-1920 is at 440.000 pages now, and there's another above 400.000). The maintainance kits for these are around 500€. I don't see the kits for 2020D yet, but I'd imagine they cost about the same, so it's probably better to buy a new printer once the old one stops working (and that means actually stops working, not just crying that it wants MK).
Posted Wednesday 29th April 2009 09:13 GMT
Simon Williams
@Dave #
Not sure what you mean by a common standard. The cartridge is an integral part of a printer's mechanism, so if you're advocating a single cartridge which can fit a number of different models from different makers, you're crying in the wind. The print engine is what differentiates between makes and that design freedom is heavily guarded by manufacturers.
There's often some commonality between models in a single manufacturer's range, though, and that was why we picked out the fact that Kyocera Mita was deliberately making them different, to make it harder for counterfeiters.
This topic is closed for new posts.