Due to be unveiled at next month's Seoul Motor Show, the Hyundai Blue-Will is the Korean take on the plug-in parallel hybrid.
Hyundai's Blue-Will Hyundai's Blue-Will... must resist the temptation to add a 'y'
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In this case I think the 40 mile all-electric range is because in my parts, at least, 20 miles each way is seen as the "sweet spot" for capturing daily commuter traffic.
Again it seems that manufacturers are paying lip service to the concept of green motoring. Like most hybrids this thing will run on IC most of the time. It will however cost a lot more than a purely IC powered car. So the manufacturer will make more money if they can convince everybody to buy "green".
Looks like the offspring of a BMW 1 series and a new shape Honda Civic. That's a bit like being hit with the ugly stick twice. Still: I quite like it. Maybe I'm just perverse.
Exactly, my thought as well. With dis-proportionally small flippers (cameras instead of mirrors I guess).
It is also not particularly green. Lugging around a 156 bhp engine will definitely cost money. Especially if it is an engine made by Hyundai and not let's say Daihatsu).
It is clearly an evolutionary dead-end like the Prius. A motor-in-wheel hybrid with an optimised constant rpm generator will cost much less and be much more drive-able. Though as this is a hyundai nobody expects it to be drive-able anyway.
You people are obsessed with looks which to be honest are irrelivant.. How many cars still look like thier first incarnation Golf? Fiesta?
Surely the tech is whats important.. but still missing... energery recovery is a must.. call it KErs or whatever its still electromagnetic brakes (like some rollercoasters!)
Get rid of direct drive engines power over a wide band is inneficient, we should be looking at fuel for generators and purely electric drive systems.. (eg honda clarity) if you were to use in wheel motors (excuse the unsprung weight temporarilly) you can strip out an entire transmission, and use them as electromagnetic brakes!
Now to deal with unsprung weight.. Pancake motors! very light Carbon Disc with Printed Copper Tracks, (lighter than a brake disc! even ceramic) A big chunky copper coil (about the size of a steel hydraulic caliper block) and hey presto an in wheel system that is no heavier than todays.. in fact the disc's dont get so hot.. and if you use fluid to cool the coil you dont need heat resistant wheels meaning new materials eg carbon for rims.. and extra weight savings...
Oh and did I infer no drive shaft weight either...
Seems more akin to a Prius than the totally electric Volt, making comparison to the latter a poor journalistic choice.
Speaking of Prius, why all the bashing (by non-Prius Hummer owners, I assume). Sure it's not ideal, but it's the best available TODAY. I've averaged 53 mpg over 40k miles in the last 3 years with ours. Get your heads out of your asses, Prius-bashing-dumbasses.
Looks like a Blue whale at feeding time...no new technology there just more of the same stuff that will never see the light of day and is already outdated to boot.
53mpg isn't particularly good you know. You can get better than that from plenty of motors these days. And those cars that can better 53mpg (mostly diesels, natch) cost a whole lot less to buy than your Pious. So you're paying more for your fuel bills AND more to buy the car in the first place than the owner of a pretty average oil burner.
Vendicar Decarian posts, "Japan, North Korea, China and now India are the new automotive manufacturing superpowers in the world."
I've never heard of North Korea as one of the "automotive manufacturing superpowers" - I thought they were starving to death there?
Mark Hartman posts, "Sure it's not ideal, but it's the best available TODAY. I've averaged 53 mpg over 40k miles in the last 3 years with ours."
The cost of the Prius does not necessarily justify the savings in gasoline consumed over 3-5 years. A economically conscious decision would not place this at the top of a buyer's list.
It was not that long ago when one could buy a 4 door Dodge Colt sedan and get 40MPG with a peppy engine that leveraged 3 valves per cylinder.
Then again, cars could be much simpler and less expensive to produce back then.
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Due to be unveiled at next month's Seoul Motor Show, the Hyundai Blue-Will is the Korean take on the plug-in parallel hybrid. Hyundai's Blue-Will Hyundai's Blue-Will... must resist the temptation to add a 'y' Odd name – what's the likelihood someone will scrawl a 'y' at the end of it? – and challenging styling aside, the …
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Posted Thursday 26th March 2009 08:51 GMT
Eugene Goodrich
Coincidences often have an unrelated, common cause #
In this case I think the 40 mile all-electric range is because in my parts, at least, 20 miles each way is seen as the "sweet spot" for capturing daily commuter traffic.
Paris because she's a sweet spot.
Posted Thursday 26th March 2009 08:51 GMT
Eddy Ito
WTF? #
I can't fathom why it is smiling when it looks as a Honda was shoved up its arse.
Posted Thursday 26th March 2009 08:51 GMT
Charles Manning
Looks like a baleen whale #
Maybe they can't call it Free Willy for TM reasons.
Posted Thursday 26th March 2009 08:51 GMT
Vendicar Decarian
GM, Chrysler, Ford = Dead Meat #
Japan, North Korea, China and now India are the new automotive manufacturing superpowers in the world.
The collapse of the failed American state continues to accelerate.
Posted Thursday 26th March 2009 08:51 GMT
simon
Blue-Will #
The ostermobile?
Posted Thursday 26th March 2009 08:51 GMT
Peter D'Hoye
Name... #
First thing I thought of when I saw the car - even before reading the name - was a whale. So Blue Will -> Blue Whale ?
Posted Thursday 26th March 2009 08:51 GMT
Gareth Jones
Lip service will be resumed... #
Again it seems that manufacturers are paying lip service to the concept of green motoring. Like most hybrids this thing will run on IC most of the time. It will however cost a lot more than a purely IC powered car. So the manufacturer will make more money if they can convince everybody to buy "green".
Posted Thursday 26th March 2009 10:25 GMT
Simon Neill
That car.... #
Has a great evil grin. I want it.
Posted Thursday 26th March 2009 10:25 GMT
Matt Bradley
Challenging Styling? #
Looks like the offspring of a BMW 1 series and a new shape Honda Civic. That's a bit like being hit with the ugly stick twice. Still: I quite like it. Maybe I'm just perverse.
Posted Thursday 26th March 2009 10:25 GMT
Anton Ivanov
Re: Looks like a baleen whale #
Exactly, my thought as well. With dis-proportionally small flippers (cameras instead of mirrors I guess).
It is also not particularly green. Lugging around a 156 bhp engine will definitely cost money. Especially if it is an engine made by Hyundai and not let's say Daihatsu).
It is clearly an evolutionary dead-end like the Prius. A motor-in-wheel hybrid with an optimised constant rpm generator will cost much less and be much more drive-able. Though as this is a hyundai nobody expects it to be drive-able anyway.
Posted Thursday 26th March 2009 10:25 GMT
CockKnocker
not bad #
Out of all the tree-hugger cars Iv'e seen so far, (apart from the tesla) this doesnt look half bad. Well compared to the abortion that is the "Pious"!
Posted Thursday 26th March 2009 10:51 GMT
Liam Johnson
0-60 <- this doesn't couint as a title? #
So, with 280HP of combined motor power, how fast does it manage 0-60?
Posted Thursday 26th March 2009 12:00 GMT
James Taylor
new hyundai coupe? #
with 280hp from a 1.6 engine this could be a pretty nippy vehicle
Posted Thursday 26th March 2009 13:34 GMT
Anonymous Coward
What is it with looks?? #
You people are obsessed with looks which to be honest are irrelivant.. How many cars still look like thier first incarnation Golf? Fiesta?
Surely the tech is whats important.. but still missing... energery recovery is a must.. call it KErs or whatever its still electromagnetic brakes (like some rollercoasters!)
Get rid of direct drive engines power over a wide band is inneficient, we should be looking at fuel for generators and purely electric drive systems.. (eg honda clarity) if you were to use in wheel motors (excuse the unsprung weight temporarilly) you can strip out an entire transmission, and use them as electromagnetic brakes!
Now to deal with unsprung weight.. Pancake motors! very light Carbon Disc with Printed Copper Tracks, (lighter than a brake disc! even ceramic) A big chunky copper coil (about the size of a steel hydraulic caliper block) and hey presto an in wheel system that is no heavier than todays.. in fact the disc's dont get so hot.. and if you use fluid to cool the coil you dont need heat resistant wheels meaning new materials eg carbon for rims.. and extra weight savings...
Oh and did I infer no drive shaft weight either...
Posted Thursday 26th March 2009 16:43 GMT
Mark Hartman
Volt or Prius? #
Seems more akin to a Prius than the totally electric Volt, making comparison to the latter a poor journalistic choice.
Speaking of Prius, why all the bashing (by non-Prius Hummer owners, I assume). Sure it's not ideal, but it's the best available TODAY. I've averaged 53 mpg over 40k miles in the last 3 years with ours. Get your heads out of your asses, Prius-bashing-dumbasses.
Posted Thursday 26th March 2009 16:43 GMT
Kevin Whitefoot
@What is it with looks?? #
At last a sensible response to the unsprung weight criticism. But why AC?
Posted Thursday 26th March 2009 16:43 GMT
CC
A pregnant life raft?? #
Looks like a Blue whale at feeding time...no new technology there just more of the same stuff that will never see the light of day and is already outdated to boot.
Posted Thursday 26th March 2009 16:43 GMT
ian
Is it powered by krill? #
A Japanese whaler is likely to harpoon it by accident, unless the whaler is named Honda or Toyota. Especially given the crap drive system...
Posted Thursday 26th March 2009 17:41 GMT
Anonymous Coward
@Mark Hartman #
53mpg isn't particularly good you know. You can get better than that from plenty of motors these days. And those cars that can better 53mpg (mostly diesels, natch) cost a whole lot less to buy than your Pious. So you're paying more for your fuel bills AND more to buy the car in the first place than the owner of a pretty average oil burner.
Now who'd the dumbass?
Posted Tuesday 31st March 2009 15:41 GMT
David Halko
North Korea? Prius? #
Vendicar Decarian posts, "Japan, North Korea, China and now India are the new automotive manufacturing superpowers in the world."
I've never heard of North Korea as one of the "automotive manufacturing superpowers" - I thought they were starving to death there?
Mark Hartman posts, "Sure it's not ideal, but it's the best available TODAY. I've averaged 53 mpg over 40k miles in the last 3 years with ours."
The cost of the Prius does not necessarily justify the savings in gasoline consumed over 3-5 years. A economically conscious decision would not place this at the top of a buyer's list.
It was not that long ago when one could buy a 4 door Dodge Colt sedan and get 40MPG with a peppy engine that leveraged 3 valves per cylinder.
Then again, cars could be much simpler and less expensive to produce back then.
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