Nintendo has vowed to fight a court order demanding it pay $21m (£10.7m/€13.5m) to a US gaming company for patent infringements associated with controllers for the Wii and GameCube.
Although specific details of the violation of Anascape's intellectual property rights haven’t been disclosed yet, the US court found that Nintendo …
McCreevy's at it again, he's trying to reduce the innovation test needed to determine if a patent represents a new invention and widening patents to software and business processes. Bringing patent trolling to EU.
Specifically, he's trying to slot in ' AS A WHOLE' to the patent wording.
So they can make ever more bullshit inventions simply by adding extra clauses until they find something that hasn't been patented.You invent a cold fusion, a patent troll patents 'cold fusion used to power houses' and blocks your invention for use in powering houses.
Then there's the computer trick, you can't patent software, you can't patent business processes or pure maths or discoveries.... but with the new McCreevy text you can just tack on something else to make it patentable.
I patent x+1 used in a ballot counting machine....
I patent handshake transactions as used in the financial industry....
So Symbian recently patented late loading of dll's thereby undermining the whole computer industry with every PC late loading their device drivers that way. (Which idiot didn't know we late load dlls for every driver?)
If they are found to not be able to patent software, they'll simply tack on 'late loading dlls in a phone' and 'late loading dlls in a pc', ... to make it patentable again.
In typical McCreevy style, he's agreed this change in a treating with the USA, bypassing the EU law making process and taking his orders direct from Washington.
Maybe it's just the article that's vague but wouldn't every controller ever made fall into those patent categories? How come this company isn't suing MS, SONY, Gravis, Logitech, etc?
Paris? She likes stick shaped things and has pressure sensors too...
They should get thrown out of court unless they can prove that they actually developed and retailed a competing product. The lawsuit should represent losses that they can prove (or even explain) that they have incurred. Otherwise it's just too easy to patent squat, and simply register patents for whatever captures the imagination and in the vaguest terms possible, for a product that you've no chance or intention of ever building.
I might just go an register a patent for a "thing" that "does stuff".
.... have a stupid patent system. how its it right people can just patent anything. i know im going to patent a mecanical device. if anything is ever made that moves and starts selling i will sue! idiots!
Further proof that Mark is incapable of basic reading comprehension
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Only the Nintendo suit has been completed; there is nothing to report in the Microsoft case yet.
But then, giving that Mark considers it to be Xbox fanboyism for there to be a single story on the entire Register site that doesn't desperately scramble to shoehorn a mention of the RROD in, what do you expect. Seek professional help, Mark; it's not funny any more.
So by "analogue pressure sensors" it seems it's the analogue triggers that are the target of this suit. I'd have thought the neGcon controller that Namco made for the PS1 would have qualified as prior art (since Anascape's patents are dated from '97 onwards and the neGcon is from around the PS1's launch in '94).
More can be found on the neGcon here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Negcon
As far as I know only the playstation and controllers have analogue buttons (triggers in the xbox case). The gamecube controller had abxy (or whatever) that were purely digital, they had two clicks in the shoulder buttons, but I think they're digital, they only have 2 sensitivities.
Wii controller lawsuit costs Nintendo $21m
Nintendo has vowed to fight a court order demanding it pay $21m (£10.7m/€13.5m) to a US gaming company for patent infringements associated with controllers for the Wii and GameCube. Although specific details of the violation of Anascape's intellectual property rights haven’t been disclosed yet, the US court found that Nintendo …
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Posted Friday 16th May 2008 12:56 GMT
James Pickett
Hmm... #
"a regular-looking game controller with analogue pressure sensors"
That's anything with an analogue joystick then? Only in America...
Posted Friday 16th May 2008 12:56 GMT
Neil Docherty
What about the other consoles? #
Surely Sony and Microsoft can also be sued...? The PS3 has pressure sensitive buttons all over the thing!
Posted Friday 16th May 2008 12:56 GMT
Jon Brindley
Ambiguous Patent Law Strikes Again! #
"a patent for a regular-looking game controller with analogue pressure sensors."
You mean .. with .. buttons?
Posted Friday 16th May 2008 12:56 GMT
Anonymous Coward
McCreevy bring Patent trolling to Europe #
McCreevy's at it again, he's trying to reduce the innovation test needed to determine if a patent represents a new invention and widening patents to software and business processes. Bringing patent trolling to EU.
Specifically, he's trying to slot in ' AS A WHOLE' to the patent wording.
So they can make ever more bullshit inventions simply by adding extra clauses until they find something that hasn't been patented.You invent a cold fusion, a patent troll patents 'cold fusion used to power houses' and blocks your invention for use in powering houses.
Then there's the computer trick, you can't patent software, you can't patent business processes or pure maths or discoveries.... but with the new McCreevy text you can just tack on something else to make it patentable.
I patent x+1 used in a ballot counting machine....
I patent handshake transactions as used in the financial industry....
So Symbian recently patented late loading of dll's thereby undermining the whole computer industry with every PC late loading their device drivers that way. (Which idiot didn't know we late load dlls for every driver?)
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2008/03/19/patents_software_online/
If they are found to not be able to patent software, they'll simply tack on 'late loading dlls in a phone' and 'late loading dlls in a pc', ... to make it patentable again.
In typical McCreevy style, he's agreed this change in a treating with the USA, bypassing the EU law making process and taking his orders direct from Washington.
Posted Friday 16th May 2008 12:56 GMT
Anonymous Coward
Uh... #
Maybe it's just the article that's vague but wouldn't every controller ever made fall into those patent categories? How come this company isn't suing MS, SONY, Gravis, Logitech, etc?
Paris? She likes stick shaped things and has pressure sensors too...
Posted Friday 16th May 2008 12:56 GMT
George Johnson
Make a difference? #
Being a family type organisation, I know they don't want the bad press but is $20M really going to cause Nintendo any problems?
Posted Friday 16th May 2008 14:26 GMT
Mark
Further proof that James Sherwood is a Xbox fanboy.. #
The fact that he decided to exclude the fact that Microsoft was also sued as part of the same patent infringement.
Way to go james, make the entire Register journos look like a bunch of biased buffoons..
http://www.bizjournals.com/seattle/stories/2008/05/12/daily26.html?jst=b_ln_hl
Posted Friday 16th May 2008 14:28 GMT
Andy Turner
Patent Squatters #
They should get thrown out of court unless they can prove that they actually developed and retailed a competing product. The lawsuit should represent losses that they can prove (or even explain) that they have incurred. Otherwise it's just too easy to patent squat, and simply register patents for whatever captures the imagination and in the vaguest terms possible, for a product that you've no chance or intention of ever building.
I might just go an register a patent for a "thing" that "does stuff".
Posted Friday 16th May 2008 14:28 GMT
Anonymous Coward
you yankies... #
.... have a stupid patent system. how its it right people can just patent anything. i know im going to patent a mecanical device. if anything is ever made that moves and starts selling i will sue! idiots!
Posted Friday 16th May 2008 14:32 GMT
Karim Bourouba
is this really for the Wii? #
I had read elsewhere that the ruling was over the Wavebird controller for the GameCube.
Posted Friday 16th May 2008 14:52 GMT
Mike Richards
Is it a Texan court by any chance? #
IIRC a lot of patent infringement cases are brought before Texan courts which have shown a greater tendency to side with the plaintiff.
Anyone able to confirm this or shall I put it down to false recollection under the influence of eau de meths?
Posted Friday 16th May 2008 15:56 GMT
JeffyPooh
We have a Wii... #
An|d th|e scree|n look|ed like this.
So| we |exchan|ged it,| but guess
wh|at? |The rep|lacem|ent Wii has
th|e sa|me vide|o GPU| fault. Sigh,
it'|s rea|lly anno|ying t|o have to
send th|e secon|d unit back...
Posted Friday 16th May 2008 16:09 GMT
Anonymous Coward
Mark Smells #
of Sony fanboism
and the fatty sweat he generates from frantically responding to every post on the internet that could possibly say something bad about sony
waaaaaah
Posted Friday 16th May 2008 18:34 GMT
Iain
Further proof that Mark is incapable of basic reading comprehension #
Only the Nintendo suit has been completed; there is nothing to report in the Microsoft case yet.
But then, giving that Mark considers it to be Xbox fanboyism for there to be a single story on the entire Register site that doesn't desperately scramble to shoehorn a mention of the RROD in, what do you expect. Seek professional help, Mark; it's not funny any more.
Posted Friday 16th May 2008 23:31 GMT
Anonymous Coward
Analogue Triggers #
So by "analogue pressure sensors" it seems it's the analogue triggers that are the target of this suit. I'd have thought the neGcon controller that Namco made for the PS1 would have qualified as prior art (since Anascape's patents are dated from '97 onwards and the neGcon is from around the PS1's launch in '94).
More can be found on the neGcon here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Negcon
Posted Sunday 18th May 2008 09:49 GMT
Simon Rowsby
Analogue? #
As far as I know only the playstation and controllers have analogue buttons (triggers in the xbox case). The gamecube controller had abxy (or whatever) that were purely digital, they had two clicks in the shoulder buttons, but I think they're digital, they only have 2 sensitivities.
Posted Sunday 18th May 2008 09:49 GMT
andy rock
oh dear #
"At least Nintendo’s executives can use the boxing game on Wii Sports to vent some of their money-loss rage."
who on earth thought of this line? this is 'journalism' straight out of the The Sun!
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