Coming to terms with Raon's Everun tiny, Lolita-based PC
Ah, the ultra mobile PC (UMPC). This is the one device in the computing kingdom that I want to work well more than any other.
The latest turn in my ongoing hunt for a super lightweight, compact computer led me to Raon's Everun UMPC. Here we find a product with a novel, albeit predictable take on the UMPC concept that has been …
Strange use of "Lolita" in this article. Lolita's size was not the issue, it was her *age*. Given her age, one might expect she had small hands, as all children do, by why pick on Lolita? Perhaps the author has got Lolita confused with Lilliput(ian)? Maybe Tom Thumb would have been better?
The confusion also raises a question: where has the author got *his* idea of Lolita from? :)
Anyway, the keyboard does look fiddly. There are lots of alternative text entry systems not using a keyboard, besides handwriting/screen keyboards. I would like to see mobile PC manufacturers using them more. They are cheap to implement in software, and may well do away with the need for a keyboard, making the device cheaper, so why not?
It seems everyone wants them to be laptops while, at the same time not being a laptop.
UMPCs are cool if they fit your purpose. If you need something that has a readable screen and you can type quickly on you need a laptop. There is no way of getting around having a 10" plus keyboard without having a 10" plus device.
These things, however, would be great for POS or warehouse applications where most of the data is already put in and you are manipulating it rarely. Scan, use the stylis or a finger to do a a few functions and hit enter.
However, there are cheaper devices that do those functions now. Heck, I love my little palm device. It Syncs with my laptop wirelessly so I can put data on it like emails, planning, and movies. I can even respond to an email in a pinch and have it send when I can get connectivity. However, when I need to compose a document I cant beat the 11.6" wide keyboard on my laptop (well, I can, with my full size bluetooth keyboard).
Id much rather have them spend their time and money making my laptop 1/4" thin and 1lbs while getting 3000 hours of battery life. Not trying to make it 4x5"
What exactly does "Carpal Tunnel-friendly" mean? It's friendly to my carpal tunnel, or it's likely to produce carpal tunnel syndrome? Totally ambiguous.
Which online store was "repeatedly" plugged, in your opinion? There was one mention of iTunes, and one mention of MLB.com. Have you discovered some new meaning of the word "repeatedly" which means "exactly once"?
How much did the competitors of whoever-it-was-you-think-AV-was-plugging pay you to write your comment?
Why oh why do these people spend millions of £/$ of research money making things smaller and ultimately less useable?
Like Ryan above I'd much rather have a decent size of screen, very little weight(500g or less) and thin. Something I won't notice so much when I'm travelling.
I don't see why people want to have a computer with them everywhere, take a break, learn the art of conversation.
UMPC aren't usable simply because the OS was never designed for use on such a small device. Application windows all over the place etc... it's only something you'll put yourself through if you need a Windows application on the move.
Why does nobody make a gadget which does the blindingly obvious, namely a flip-phone format, where the hinge is on the side (opening like a laptop)? Then you could have a small device, with big screen and big keyboard!
Nokia have been producing the "communicator" in various guises for years, but at the end of the day, fitting a qwerty keyboard into a tiny space makes no sense since you can't possibly touch type at that size.
Try the Nokia Communicator range (although I think they've just rebadged it under the E series).
Fraid everything these "UMPC"'s can do can be done using Windows Mobile 5.0/6.0 anyway. Exchange based email, install 3rd party apps (or write your own), bluetooth, wi-fi, lightweight, small, full QWERTY keyboard - called HTC S710 (or VOX). No touchscreen though, if you need that try the Toshiba G900.
UMPC's are already dead. Between WM handsets and laptops i'm still amazed you can buy a tablet PC, let along UMPC's.
Ben, maybe the original article said lolis and the editor changed it. :p (For the uninitiated, loli has become an internet slang for a child, as a sort of ironic reference to lolita/lolicon, where it started...)
"Nokia have been producing the "communicator" in various guises for years, but at the end of the day, fitting a qwerty keyboard into a tiny space makes no sense since you can't possibly touch type at that size."
I'm guessing you've never used a Psion V - whether you could call what I did with mine touch typing or not I don't know, but I could certainly rattle away on it for extended periods at a useful rate with reasonable accuracy, and no discomfort. In my opinion anybody thinking of building/marketing a small device with a QWERTY keyboard should look long and hard Psion's masterpiece (and if necessary be prepared to pay money to use the patents) as it remains unmatched to this day...
Coming to terms with Raon's Everun tiny, Lolita-based PC
Ah, the ultra mobile PC (UMPC). This is the one device in the computing kingdom that I want to work well more than any other. The latest turn in my ongoing hunt for a super lightweight, compact computer led me to Raon's Everun UMPC. Here we find a product with a novel, albeit predictable take on the UMPC concept that has been …
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Posted Saturday 25th August 2007 16:38 GMT
Michael Sheils
What was the point? #
Doing a half finished product review that you didn't even see fit to include a rating with in order to plug repeatedly a online store?
How much did they pay you for that?
Posted Saturday 25th August 2007 16:38 GMT
Sampler
Bluetooth keyboard #
For those long typing sessions?
Posted Saturday 25th August 2007 16:38 GMT
Ben
Lolita? #
Strange use of "Lolita" in this article. Lolita's size was not the issue, it was her *age*. Given her age, one might expect she had small hands, as all children do, by why pick on Lolita? Perhaps the author has got Lolita confused with Lilliput(ian)? Maybe Tom Thumb would have been better?
The confusion also raises a question: where has the author got *his* idea of Lolita from? :)
Anyway, the keyboard does look fiddly. There are lots of alternative text entry systems not using a keyboard, besides handwriting/screen keyboards. I would like to see mobile PC manufacturers using them more. They are cheap to implement in software, and may well do away with the need for a keyboard, making the device cheaper, so why not?
Posted Saturday 25th August 2007 18:35 GMT
Ryan Stewart
I dont get these things. #
It seems everyone wants them to be laptops while, at the same time not being a laptop.
UMPCs are cool if they fit your purpose. If you need something that has a readable screen and you can type quickly on you need a laptop. There is no way of getting around having a 10" plus keyboard without having a 10" plus device.
These things, however, would be great for POS or warehouse applications where most of the data is already put in and you are manipulating it rarely. Scan, use the stylis or a finger to do a a few functions and hit enter.
However, there are cheaper devices that do those functions now. Heck, I love my little palm device. It Syncs with my laptop wirelessly so I can put data on it like emails, planning, and movies. I can even respond to an email in a pinch and have it send when I can get connectivity. However, when I need to compose a document I cant beat the 11.6" wide keyboard on my laptop (well, I can, with my full size bluetooth keyboard).
Id much rather have them spend their time and money making my laptop 1/4" thin and 1lbs while getting 3000 hours of battery life. Not trying to make it 4x5"
Posted Saturday 25th August 2007 21:34 GMT
Anonymous Coward
"Carpal Tunnel-friendly"? #
What exactly does "Carpal Tunnel-friendly" mean? It's friendly to my carpal tunnel, or it's likely to produce carpal tunnel syndrome? Totally ambiguous.
Posted Sunday 26th August 2007 22:43 GMT
Colin Sharples
@Michael Sheils #
And what exactly was your point?
Which online store was "repeatedly" plugged, in your opinion? There was one mention of iTunes, and one mention of MLB.com. Have you discovered some new meaning of the word "repeatedly" which means "exactly once"?
How much did the competitors of whoever-it-was-you-think-AV-was-plugging pay you to write your comment?
Posted Monday 27th August 2007 07:08 GMT
Kevin Thomas
@Colin Sharples #
Do you work for Dynamism.com? Did you read the article at all?
Sheesh.
Posted Monday 27th August 2007 16:40 GMT
Alan
I agree with Ryan #
Why oh why do these people spend millions of £/$ of research money making things smaller and ultimately less useable?
Like Ryan above I'd much rather have a decent size of screen, very little weight(500g or less) and thin. Something I won't notice so much when I'm travelling.
Posted Monday 27th August 2007 16:40 GMT
Giles Jones
Take a break #
I don't see why people want to have a computer with them everywhere, take a break, learn the art of conversation.
UMPC aren't usable simply because the OS was never designed for use on such a small device. Application windows all over the place etc... it's only something you'll put yourself through if you need a Windows application on the move.
Posted Monday 27th August 2007 16:40 GMT
Richard Neill
Horizontal Flip #
Why does nobody make a gadget which does the blindingly obvious, namely a flip-phone format, where the hinge is on the side (opening like a laptop)? Then you could have a small device, with big screen and big keyboard!
Posted Monday 27th August 2007 19:43 GMT
Anonymous Coward
@Richard Neill re: flip format #
Nokia have been producing the "communicator" in various guises for years, but at the end of the day, fitting a qwerty keyboard into a tiny space makes no sense since you can't possibly touch type at that size.
Posted Monday 27th August 2007 20:18 GMT
Steven Hewittt
@ Richard Neil #
Try the Nokia Communicator range (although I think they've just rebadged it under the E series).
Fraid everything these "UMPC"'s can do can be done using Windows Mobile 5.0/6.0 anyway. Exchange based email, install 3rd party apps (or write your own), bluetooth, wi-fi, lightweight, small, full QWERTY keyboard - called HTC S710 (or VOX). No touchscreen though, if you need that try the Toshiba G900.
UMPC's are already dead. Between WM handsets and laptops i'm still amazed you can buy a tablet PC, let along UMPC's.
Posted Tuesday 28th August 2007 07:05 GMT
Anonymous Coward
@Ben #
Ben, maybe the original article said lolis and the editor changed it. :p (For the uninitiated, loli has become an internet slang for a child, as a sort of ironic reference to lolita/lolicon, where it started...)
Posted Tuesday 28th August 2007 10:32 GMT
Pete James
You've blown your cover! #
Hmmmmmm, "Lolita", "one-handed typing".....
Methinks the reviewer has been using this overblown PDA to stream media a touch more adult than a nancy-boys rounders game.......
Posted Tuesday 28th August 2007 12:59 GMT
Jonathon Green
@AdamV #
"Nokia have been producing the "communicator" in various guises for years, but at the end of the day, fitting a qwerty keyboard into a tiny space makes no sense since you can't possibly touch type at that size."
I'm guessing you've never used a Psion V - whether you could call what I did with mine touch typing or not I don't know, but I could certainly rattle away on it for extended periods at a useful rate with reasonable accuracy, and no discomfort. In my opinion anybody thinking of building/marketing a small device with a QWERTY keyboard should look long and hard Psion's masterpiece (and if necessary be prepared to pay money to use the patents) as it remains unmatched to this day...
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JG
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